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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:24 pm 
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Here's one folks,

I was pulling my truck pan to replace pan gaskets and rear main, (due to excessive driveway spots) 318-LA engine. When I came upon a Factory type bolt affixed into the pan about 3/4 of the way up.

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Well I am guessing that the pan got smacked on the assembly line and Instead of replacing it they just jammed it into the truck anyway with a Factory self threading bolt and some sealant. Needless to say this quasi assembly line repair was part of my oil leaking, not all of it however. I can verify that the pan has be on there since '77 due to the original rubber seals on the front and back of the pan having the MoPar part#'s I have never seen anything this odd from the factory before. None would ever spot it either because of the position of the bolt behind the truck frames' Crossover under the pan.
Weird!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:46 pm 
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Looks like a misfire of the oil pan drain plug locating machine...


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Yeah, Except No one would want a drain plug that small, It would take you 4 Hours to drain your Oil!

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How long have you had this truck ??? Since new ??? I'm guessing it was a backyard fix, not factory.

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i agree, no way that bolt has been there since '77. there's hardly any surface rust on it, for one. two, i cant imagine something like that passing QA.

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QA...? At Chrysler...? In '77...? Image

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Yeah, imagine them trying to cut a corner to save time/money when Ma Mopar was already in the "We're going broke" tailspin. :lol: :lol:

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Once upon a time my brother worked at a Ford plant here in Indy. They had him checking steering gear assemblies for the Aerostar, etc. He was doing a good job testing these things to the specs supplied. The only problem was he was rejecting too many parts! Engineer came down and watched him go through the process and did not knock what he was doing. He came back a few minutes later with a brand new set of specs so the sloppy stuff would pass! :shock:

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Yup I used to make push rods and fuel lines(Maint Dept) I saw a lot of split line or buggered up rods shipped to make delivery date then come back because they were JUNK.
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Yeah, imagine them trying to cut a corner to save time/money when Ma Mopar was already in the "We're going broke" tailspin. :lol: :lol:
My grandfather's `79 wagon not only had UNSANDED filler between the a pillar and roof joint, there was a nice 1/2" wrench underneath the carpet. Found it when we changed out the factory carpet for new stuff 20 years later!

My dad had an Omnirizon. Yup, said "Horizon" on the hood and "Omni" on the hatch!

Yeah, quality control did not exist back then. :roll:

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This thread reminds me of the term "old world craftsmanship"
which I laugh about whenever I see old c**p.
Or- "they don't make em like they used to"...yes..they do.

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Alright.. THis is sure a good discussion.. First of all QC @ any of the Chrysler Plants in the 70's is suspect!


I have Found Lotsa Stuff under original carpeting Where there Shouldn't be anything.. paint runs, Fit and finish bad etc.. :)


Yes there is not a lot of surface rust on the bolt because it was covered in oil all the time! Same goes for the rest of the pan in this area.. A backyard repair would not have A factory type bolt in my opinion.. Just a hardware store bolt or one of those sulf tapping sheetmetal screws.. This is a factory bolt And there a a few other heavy dings in the oil pan in the same area.. Makes me think it was smashed on the line somehow.

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reminds me of when my grandpa and I were taking a trip in our motorhome. We were going through palm springs, when we hit something in the road. Flipped up and punctured the oil pan. we took a bolt out of a fender, stuck it in the hole with some silicone, and filled it back up with oil. its still like that to this day, and that happened in 1999 :shock: . no drips or leaks. he is too old to take out the oil pan, and I dont have the time and ambition to :oops: . When he dies, im getting it anyways, so its not like i dont know about it 8)

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Keep in mind that captive-washer bolts like this are available new on the open market. Not as readily as ordinary hardware store items, but they're out there...especially if a previous owner worked at any kind of a hardware-related business. What's more, factory-type bolts are readily available used off of other cars.

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