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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:52 pm 
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Very weird. Never seen this happen. Even though the UCA is sort of "threaded" to take the new ball joint's threads, this ball joint assembly blasted right out through the top of the upper control arm. Installed new 9 years ago. I suspect maybe over-torqued and compromised the "sort-of' threads, then finally failed. Left top, which makes sense, as the wife flies down the street hitting the driveway ramp in a hard left turn. (Married 43 years, stopped trying to train her a long time ago.) :)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:58 pm 
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Good excuse to upgrade to tubular arms and a sportier spring and shock setup.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:20 pm 
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Ha Ha!!! Wife's daily driver 4-door Dart SE, 280,000 miles. She already thinks it's a lousy race car, but drives it that way anyway. (That would be 6th project on the priority list.) :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:27 am 
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I would check out the other side. Not unusual to have these replaced in pairs. I would also replace the upper control arm on the side that failed. I couldn't trust it after a failure like that.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:42 am 
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I've converted small ball joint upper control arms with these sleeves. You could also use them repair your control arm.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Steel-Upp ... ,2126.html

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:25 am 
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One of the first things I replaced on my '63 were upper ball joints. In my ignorance, I pressed them out and back in. It lasted a couple weeks...

When i did it again, I struck an arc in 3 spots on the nut. I figured that I could just grind off the weld if they needed it again.... or as was mentioned, tubular upper arms.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:32 am 
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Joshie225 wrote:
I've converted small ball joint upper control arms with these sleeves. You could also use them repair your control arm.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Steel-Upp ... ,2126.html



this converts small ball joint arms to large ball joint arms Correct?

Do you have to drill or grind out the small joint mounting area on the arm before welding in the sleeve?


For $15 that might be a way to get started on my 64 Dart to Mount up the Volare Spindles!


I can weld! YAY.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:44 pm 
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Greg, yes. I just sold the set that Josh made for the Bonneville Barracuda. Bob Dally went to tubular. Still look nice.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:45 pm 
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I torched out the original ball joint mount and welded the sleeves in place. Be careful as clouds of smoke from the old grease can flare up when the oxygen stream is introduced. I kept my eyebrows, but it was close.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:46 pm 
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Joshie225 wrote:
I torched out the original ball joint mount and welded the sleeves in place. Be careful as clouds of smoke from the old grease can flare up when the oxygen stream is introduced. I kept my eyebrows, but it was close.


:lol: Been there, done that (albeit on other pieces).

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Nothing like appearing in town browless.......

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:14 pm 
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Dart270 wrote:
Greg, yes. I just sold the set that Josh made for the Bonneville Barracuda. Bob Dally went to tubular. Still look nice.

Lou


did he go totally tubular?

:D :D :D :D :D

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Totally tubular to the max, dude...

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Dart270 wrote:
Totally tubular to the max, dude...

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Bodaciously gnarly, dude.


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