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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:34 pm 
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Recently I bought a rebuild kit from Summit for my 1961 Dodge with a slant 6 and push button 904.
Kit number was PAKT12700 and advertised at Summit to fit models 60 to 78.
I was starting my rebuild yesterday and found out that at least the front clutch piston lip seals are wrong in this.
Did some googling and found out that the kit is actually for 72 and up models.

Is there more differences with the transmissions than these lip seals?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:15 am 
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Yes, there are other part differences. Bet it doesn't have the correct filter, rear seal, park pawl housing gasket, cable "O" rings, etc. Get the correct kit.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:37 am 
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Charrlie_S wrote:
Yes, there are other part differences. Bet it doesn't have the correct filter, rear seal, park pawl housing gasket, cable "O" rings, etc. Get the correct kit.

Filter will fit, but requires later style oil pan. I'm using RE42 deep pan from Jeep so I do need a filter extension adapter.
61 Transmission does not have park at all.
But yes, maybe it's easier to get another kit rather than hunt down the missing seals.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:58 am 
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Markus-FIN wrote:
Filter will fit


The '60-'65 transmission requires a filter with two holes, not just one like the '66-up filter. See here.

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I do need a filter extension adapter


No, you don't.

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But yes, maybe it's easier to get another kit rather than hunt down the missing seals.


Yes. Also, Summit is really not a reliable place to get suitable parts for a car like yours (as you found out). Get with Pat Blais.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:21 am 
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Thanks Dan!
Now that you mentioned it, I remember putting the Dacron filter to my tranny couple years back. I read your post about the swap back then and used the correct double pump filter.
Now that I'm going to put the 2" deep Jeep pan in it, wouldn't it be better to use extension on the filter to get it close to the pan bottom?
Actually, I don't even know if there is such an extension available for dual pump tranny :?

And yes, it was a russian roulette to buy the kit from Summit :D

But I ordered just the seal kit today from a local tranny shop and going to use the Alto steels and frictions from the "wrong" kit.

EDIT: And no, I do not need the extension if I remember to keep enough fluid in it :oops:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:04 pm 
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If you're using a deep pan, you can also get a 2-hole filter extension from Pat Blais. At least he's where I got mine in 2015 or so (when the deep pan kit I bought on Summit came with a 1-hole extension).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:39 am 
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Is Pat Blais still in business ?


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