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Exner Geek
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Post subject: (Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:07 am) Reply with quote

I think the Cox Brothers used to have this problem also. I believe A&A produced some kind of enhanced pump drive for them, maybe it is still available. Maybe the higher line pressures in modified transmissions cause failures the same way high volume oil pumps do. If that was true you would think you would hear more about it. I suspect that interference during installation might be the problem.



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Post subject: (Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:33 am) Reply with quote

I believe you can use the pump from an A-500 and and have a converter built with the proper snout. I know the 727 guys have used a 518 pump because the lugs are different. Maybe a 500 is the same?



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Post subject: (Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:44 am) Reply with quote

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bring your car to Mason Dixon in May


will do, just not this year,, good luck with the car,, the effort you are putting in will certainly pay dividends to you.


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Ron Hamby
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Post subject: (Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:14 pm) Reply with quote

Rick I broke my pump ears at Gateway in Saint Louis on the return road around the year 2000 and with the kind help of a kind gentleman who lives there (wish I could remember his name) replaced it overnight with a used one he had back at home. I have been running the same one since with my fingers crossed. Another thing I will note. Parker, Rose and Harrison had this problem a number of times and someone decided it was easier on the pump to start the engine in neutral which caused less shock on the ears than in park and shocking the pump when pulling it into gear or neutral. I don't know if it has any validity but I have been starting in neutral ever since. It does go from no pressure in park to pumping when you pull it out of park so if it is easier on the ears why not.

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Rick Covalt
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Post subject: (Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:31 pm) Reply with quote

Thanks Ron, that is some good info to have. At least I'm not alone! Laughing



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Post subject: (Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:38 pm) Reply with quote

Looks like they have them. But they are pricey

http://www.aandatrans.com/Products/904-Inner-4340-Steel-and-Stock-Outer-Gear-Set__AA12530.aspx



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Post subject: (Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:36 am) Reply with quote

A and a stuff well worth the $ ..pm veneable.. they usually have a spring special... also save on shipping at the carlisle show.


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Brian
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Post subject: (Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:16 am) Reply with quote

Never thought of that ever being a issue. $250 seems well worth it.



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Post subject: (Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:21 am) Reply with quote

Rick if you want that part let me know. I will be at his shop next week - I can try to get the swap meet discount from last Sat.(ICH) He offers 10% on most items.



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Post subject: (Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:24 pm) Reply with quote

I always carry an extra pump in the trailer. Dis my own pump upgrade and it has worked a long time
I will describe when I am on a computer.
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Post subject: (Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:08 am) Reply with quote

Thanks Will. I'll wait to hear what to did.



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