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dart4life
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
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Tune up
(Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:33 am)
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Hey Guys its been awhile! 
I need to tune up my slant.What plugs/wires/cap and rotors do you reccomend? also should I replace the coil with something hotter? IF so with what?
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SlantSixDan
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Joined: 31 Oct 2002
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Location: North America
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(Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:56 am)
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Cap: Standard-Bluestreak CH-410X (DON'T use a NAPA Echlin cap)
Rotor: a NAPA Echlin long-tip rotor # MO-3000
Plugs: NGK ZFR5N gapped 0.040" if you've got a '74-down style head with the spark plug tubes
Plug wires: Magnecor
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dart4life
EFI Slant 6
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Posts: 319
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(Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:03 pm)
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73 dart sport. WHere do I get theese parts NAPA? I know autozone dosnt carry thoose brands.
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steponmebbbboom
Turbo EFI
Joined: 29 Nov 2003
Posts: 2000
Location: Hamilton the STEEL CITY, ON
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(Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:34 pm)
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| yep, NAPA. Condenser is an AL111X. I use Autolite 985 plugs too.
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Eric W
Turbo EFI
Joined: 03 Nov 2002
Posts: 2228
Location: Seattle, WA
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(Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:01 pm)
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Dan...Why do you not use the Echlin cap? I got one a few weeks ago (before knowing not to use them) and don't have any problems.  I didn't know Standard/Blue Streak was still around.
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SlantSixDan
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Location: North America
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(Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:41 pm)
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The Echlin caps tend to be ground off-centre. Take a look underneath one sometime: The contact lugs on one side are almost a complete circle of brass, while over on the other side they're just a little sliver. I first encountered this problem when my '65 began running oddly shortly after I tuned it up. Pulled it apart and found the cap was a mess: The too-small contacts were burned, as was the rotor tip, while the too-big contacts had grooves machined into them by the rotor, which was broken (tip pointing off at a 15° angle due to constantly striking the too-big contacts). Brass powder everywhere. Yuck. I wrote to Echlin about it, sent them the cap and the rotor and a couple non-Echlin caps and rotors. They sent me two new Echlin caps (both with the same problem) and a letter saying they didn't see any problem. I most recently looked at a new Echlin cap last year...same problem.
The Echlin MO-3000 rotor, on the other hand, is a nifty trick piece. Its contact segment is 0.060" longer than stock, which reduces the gap between the rotor tip and the cap contact. Obviously, this makes the cap accuracy even more important (hence my advice to use a Standard-Bluestreak cap) but this smaller gap inside the dist cap "buys" you the ability to open the spark plug gap a little, which pays dividends in driveability.
The Autolite 985 is one of their versions of the NGK ZFR5N. I like NGKs better than Autolites, and both of them better than Champions. If your counterman insists on a make-model-year, tell him you want six spark plugs for a 2000 Jeep Cherokee with 4.0 litre engine.
Stepon: No condenser in a '73 (electronic ignition)
Dart4: No need to change the coil. NAPA carries Echlin. What other parts stores do you have in your area aside from AutoGroan?_________________ 一期一会
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Irv83
2 BBL ''SuperSix''
Joined: 19 Oct 2005
Posts: 19
Location: Shelton, Ct.
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Post subject:
Tune up
(Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:51 am)
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Dan,
Do you have a NAPA part no. for the Magnecor plug wires for a '61 225 ?
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Irv83
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SlantSixDan
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(Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:31 am)
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You don't get Magnecor wires from NAPA, you get them from Magnecor.
You need P/N 6008 (7mm, $45), 6708 (8mm, $43) or 6508 (8.5mm, $74)._________________ 一期一会
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75dartcustom
TBI Slant 6
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 233
Location: Boulder Colorado
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(Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:43 pm)
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Dan,
do you have any recommendations for 75 and up plugs?
I have been using NGK whatever comes up in the Auto parts store computer._________________ God took you away, then brought you back to me.
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Jester
TBI Slant 6
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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(Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:32 am)
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6008 is 8mm. They're now $57.
Was wondering why the 7mm were cheaper in Dan's post 
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Reed
Supercharged
Joined: 03 Nov 2002
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Location: Fircrest, WA
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(Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:41 am)
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| This thread should be a sticky.
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Aggressive Ted
Turbo EFI
Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 2370
Location: Black Diamond, WA
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Post subject:
NGK Peanut plugs
(Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:27 pm)
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NGK UR4, 6330 for the peanut plug head gapped at .045, at least that is what I have been running the last 2 years. I think Dan might have a part number for the cheaper standard tip peanut plug.
The .045 gap is using the Blue Streak cap and MO-3000 router and 8mm Summit spiral wrap wires.
Plugs are very, very light sandy cinnamon color._________________ Aggressive Ted
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