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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:06 pm 
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Location: Fairfield, CA
Car Model: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
How do I replace a broken spring on the manifold heat control valve?

I recently got a 65 Barracuda. It has a .40 over rebuilt 225 in it. It appears to have a stock 1bbl intake manifold with a Carter (1695 ?) carb. The exhaust manifold has the word CHINA stamped into it so I am strongly assuming it is an aftermarket replacement. It has the large round counterweight on the exhaust manifold heat control valve. There are two bi-metallic springs on the control valve shaft behind the counterweight. I grabbed the counterweight and turned it (not too hard) and the end of one of the springs broke off!

It appears the butterfly valve is welded to the shaft so I can only assume that was done after installation. That makes me think I cannot remove the shaft to make this repair.

I cannot tell exactly where the broken end of the spring was previously connected before I broke it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:56 am 
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Car Model: 66 Valiant, 82 D150, 94 Ram 2500 TCD, 69 Dart
Where are you located? I have several good exhaust manifolds in my parts stash, all of them are factory units. It might be easier to just replace the manifold.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:52 pm 
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You'e got nothing to loose by seeing if you can get the circular weight thing off.

Maybe it is pressed on and getting it red hot with a rosebud would allow it to come off? I have no idea if it has been pressed on or welded on or what..


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:34 am 
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Car Model: 1965 Plymouth Barracuda
I am located in Fairfield, CA. It turns out to be the counterweight stop that broke. Do I have to remove the counterweight to replace the stop I ordered?

I have not begun to reassemble the top end yet so I am open to replacing the intake or exhaust manifold if that is the best and most economical efficient approach.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:52 am 
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This thread suggests that it can be repaired with a new spring somehow.. deciding if you want to give it a try is up to you:

https://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60268


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:11 pm 
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This thread suggests that it can be repaired with a new spring somehow.. deciding if you want to give it a try is up to you:

https://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60268
My bi-metal spring is in tact whether or not it has the proper "tension." It is the counterweight stop that ended up breaking. I found a new one on eBay and i am waiting for it to arrive. I am asking if anyone knows of a way to replace the stop without removing the counterweight. I am trying not to buy a whole new manifold when this one (part 14310 ?) appears otherwise in great shape. I do not know the brand of it, but it has the O2 port mentioned above.
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