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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 6:34 pm 
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This blast from the past showed up today.
O Stock 1960 Valiant, Hyper Pak, 3 speed manual!
This picture was from Englishtown in 1968.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 6:42 pm 
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Talk about a "paper" car...........

Paper car refers to a combination that was never available that shows up in Stock or Super Stock.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 6:55 pm 
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That's..... so.... Hyper!

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:08 am 
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Very cool. Why not available? I thought the Hyperpaks were dealer installed, so why not a wagon? Just curious.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:30 am 
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Interesting, I occasionally raced at Englishtown back in the '60's. Early '60's with a 63 Ford Galaxy, later '60's a 60 Chevy Biscayne. Maybe that's why I don't recall that car. Didn't start racing Mopars until the mid '70's.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:45 am 
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slantzilla wrote:
Talk about a "paper" car...........

Paper car refers to a combination that was never available that shows up in Stock or Super Stock.


It showed up in the NHRA classification charts early in the 60's.
That was the plan for my Lancer wagon years ago when I got it.

I have the gents name, going to try and contact him.

I don't think I would have tried that 3 speed though.
Can you imagine the clutches he burnt up.

I will try to find another picture.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:50 am 
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Pretty cool. On the front fender is says 170 cuin and 148HP.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 7:42 am 
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I wonder what times they run back in the day with 170


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 8:54 am 
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hyper_pak wrote:
slantzilla wrote:
Talk about a "paper" car...........

Paper car refers to a combination that was never available that shows up in Stock or Super Stock.


I don't think I would have tried that 3 speed though.
Can you imagine the clutches he burnt up.


Was there ever a 4 speed available in the early Toads?

A 170 wagon in O/S seems to be a pretty tough row to hoe. :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 9:25 am 
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No, Chrysler four speeds did not arrive until 1964 with the development and introduction of the a833


If I remember correctly some larger (probably B / C bodys) were available from the factory with pont a mousson french 4-speed transmission.

here is some more research on the subject:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pont-%C ... nt=gws-wiz

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Dart270 wrote:
Very cool. Why not available? I thought the Hyperpaks were dealer installed, so why not a wagon?
I have never seen anything saying anything like no Hyper Paks on wagons; the only exclusion I ever saw was no Hyper Paks on automatics. Which makes sense because very high idle speed to accommodate the HP camshaft would make a car with an automatic unsafe/uncontrollable.

None of the parts in the Hyper Pak kit has any way of knowing or caring how many doors has the car they're installed in.

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 1:57 pm 
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Dart270 wrote:
Very cool. Why not available? I thought the Hyperpaks were dealer installed, so why not a wagon? Just curious.

Lou


Because the HP kits were dealer/customer installed. Stock and SS had to be factory built. Since it turned up in the Guide somebody at Chrysler had to write a letter, hence the term "paper car".

Mopar was well known for "ringer" cars, but they were not the only ones. It still goes on today.

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 6:36 pm 
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As far as the automatic warning, I remember seeing that in the factory documentation.
When I did my wagon, I was not sure how it was going to work.
I used a stock automatic throttle rod and lengthen it.
It all worked great.
But autos in the early 60 were still kind of a mystery.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 6:49 pm 
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Plus the Hyperpak cam is not large by any standard except "larger " than stock. I run a bigger cam than that in my full size truck right now.

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:36 pm 
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The HP cam wasn't even .500" lift, was it? Lawnmower crap. :mrgreen:

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