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 Post subject: 7/1/22
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:08 pm 
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Been Busy lately Driving and running some errands, finally got back to doing some maintenance and replacing broken stuff or upgrading other things..

I took a 900 Mile trip one way to Pick up some Slant 6 Parts, meetup with friends and explore part of the country that I have yet to experience thoroughly. I took my copilot along for 4 days of camping, and road tripping in a car with no A/C or Radio, and Virtually no screens. For me it was epic.

For this Trip It would Take us to the Midwest, I had My Mostly empty ValianTrailer (with the Needed Camping Gear.) and My Copilot.
The Route Would Take us Through 3 Major Population Centers: - Columbus OH, Indianapolis, IN, and Saint Louis, MO.
I timed the Driving so that I was mostly driving at Night and At the Campsites During the day. - It worked well with The Camgrounds Allowing us Some Early Check ins as needed.

First Leg of the Drive was from Pittsburgh Metro to Terre Haute, IN.
Starting Mileage on the Odometer:
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The Copilot was Awake by our First Fuel Stop Outside Columbus, OH..
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I Like this Exit Just over the OH/IN State line for a quick Respite before getting into the Indianapolis Metro / I465 Beltway.
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A total Traffic Stopage on I465West at 06:30 took us around the Southern Metro Indy Area Before Finding I70 West again.
We Made it to Terre Haute and found our campsite by 09:00
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Fire up the Griddle, Make some Pancakes, then Naptime for me whilst the copilot finds the pool and playground and feeds the donkeys.
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We Hit the Road again Early The Next day and Made it Through Saint Louis before Most humans are awake and Driving. Helps that We were still on eastern time as well!

Stopped off for some Breakfast and Fuel, and the Historic Route 66 Signs were Calling, But Alas, A few more hours of interstates before Driving on some of the "Mother Road".
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Had Never Been through the Ozarks... Reminded me a bit of Home, just less windy in general.
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Finally Historic Route 66:
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Cool Stuff is found near the population centers.
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Metup with my Buddy, Swapped parts and stories, and began to head back home.... but not without taking in some of the local culture and glamour shots.
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Well I guess I lied a bit... we did see one screen - the silver screen before leaving town... I mean it's on the National Register of Historic Places.. So I recommend you check out a Movie there someday as well.
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Got a Sticker..
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On The way Back - Daybreak somewhere on I70 in Illinois
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Before Hitting our Last Campground on the East Side Of the Indianapolis Beltway.. It was a bit Buggy....
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Checked in and setup.. Ready to Nap the day away.
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odometer and GPS Do not match.. Speedo Is Correct when riving however.
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A Fun 28 Hours of Driving in four days..
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The Car developed a bearing Noise in the Axle during the Trip... the Right Rear was all hoopajooped.. Got new parts on the way.
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Upgraded the Alternator Charging Wire to 8Ga and Bypassed the Factory Firewall Bulkhead connection and Ammeter.
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Also Added a SPAL 16" Fan and Removed the OE 4 Blade Mechanical Fan - Hoping that on a Hot summer day when the car is idling and not moving in traffic that it will not get too hot and bothered.
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Will be back on the Road Soon for More adventures this summer - Carlisle, PVGP, and maybe a TNiA or a Local autoX
(I really need to get the fuel spill out of the filler cap solved before the Track or Cone events.) - it's on the to-to list.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:28 pm 
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I have seen a movie at the historic RT 66 Drive-in.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:30 am 
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I have seen a movie at the historic RT 66 Drive-in.


Awesome. It's a good place to go and a fun way to experience some authentic US history.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:54 am 
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Greg,

Thanks a bunch for sharing your lovely trip with us. I wonder if we could do a tandem trip sometime, me with a similar Copilot (Liz)??

I tried to stop by that same drive-in theater in 2018, also in a 1964 Dart. Unfortunately, an antelope near Rawlins, WY crushed my plans for that. Maybe someday...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:48 am 
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Dart270 wrote:
Greg,

Thanks a bunch for sharing your lovely trip with us. I wonder if we could do a tandem trip sometime, me with a similar Copilot (Liz)??

I tried to stop by that same drive-in theater in 2018, also in a 1964 Dart. Unfortunately, an antelope near Rawlins, WY crushed my plans for that. Maybe someday...

Slant on,
Lou


No Problem thanks for checking out the documentation.

Let's Plan on it.

Be cautious for that Wildlife.. I was Lucky... No Wildlife interactions.. :D


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 Post subject: 7/4/22
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:26 pm 
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Happy Birthday USA.

I got the Axle Bearing in the mail yesterday - I got it Pressed on and Lubed up, I Decided it replace the Outer Axle Seal as it had a Funny Wear Pattern on the Seal.... and The bearing Had to come off to replace the seal anyway.

I got the Axle slammed back home and Filled with 2 Quarts of Axle Juice.
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Got a Proper Filtered Vent for the Axle Juice installed - Hopefully it will keep the axle a bit cleaner under there.
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I got to Replace My Old Autometer Analog Oil Gauge With An AEM one -

Before:
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After:
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I still have other Stuff on my List of make the car suck less, but trips and other events and projects are beginning to eat away into my " work on this car time"
None of it is critical, just elective cases... I get to it sometime..
- Install New Steering Box
- Install New / Better Motor mounts
- Replace one of the headlight Frames that is cracked.
- Upgrade the Gauge Pod Below the dash to a 3 Holer.. and Add an AEM Voltmeter.
- I am sure there are other things too, Just can't think of them now

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:13 am 
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Sounds good, Greg. What happened with the steering box? Wear or too much effort or?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:19 pm 
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Dart270 wrote:
Sounds good, Greg. What happened with the steering box? Wear or too much effort or?

Lou


Wear I Guess- It should remain tight after say ~6000 miles but it's Loopy in the Center Too Much Play.

I got a Proper Firm Feel 16:1 Box this time. The Lares / Rockauto / PST Box is okay but I just want it to be better. So that used 16:1 Box may end up in one of the other Valiants or in the '69 Dart (all currently have 24:1 manual or Factory Power steering.

I have to Pull the Front Header to Extract the box, so It's a half Day Job to do it properly and Not Mess Stuff up.
The Guy who Built the exhaust made it difficult to access the Header collector Bolts ... so We'll see when I can get to it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:11 am 
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OK, good to know. Car is looking great. Sorry to hear about the futzin' needed, but that's how these things usually go!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:58 am 
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8/8/22:

Car is out of commission for a while as I was Not happy with clutch actuation / pedal feel while I had the car at Carlisle in the middle of last month.

I returned from Carlisle (180 Miles from me) and took the interstate so that I could just put the thing in 5th gear and not use the clutch pedal for the better part of a 3 hour drive.

I made it home successfully without the use tow truck or a flatbed.

I first suspected a Linkage /Z Bar failure beginning to happen.
Took all of those apart inspected everything, Fork arm, Linkages, Z bar etc. Could Not find anything amiss, so I reinforced the Body /Frame Rail Ball Stud Pivot.

Put it all back together and adjusted up the clutch - It was worse!!..This is crazy, so the Transmission had to come out for some inspection.
My next suspicion was a broken Input Bearing retainer /TOB Support -Known to break on the T-5's
I ordered up a steel one.

Got the trans pulled out and found the culprit to be a broken finger on the Pressure Plate.
I will rebuild the Pressure Plate myself. I have about 7 Core /Stockish 9 1/4" Borg and Beck Slant 6 Pressure Plates in stock from various cars and Projects.
I wanted to keep the pressure of this one and found some interesting variations, which I will share elsewhere.

Broken Clutch Fingers do not allow shifting to occur: :shock: :( :(
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Also found Stress Cracks on the other 2 fingers: :( :( :shock:
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Hot Rodders seem to keep parts around for that time of need..
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Found that some Borg&Beck PP's have Solid Fingers, while others are slotted:
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The one I am working with had the Spring Pressures and Other Trick Parts setup By McLeod Back in the Day. This would be a long gone Part #/ Application that would be difficult to get again, Since the ownership Change in 2008.

I found that the Pressure Ring is thicker than the stock replacement PP as well as utilizing Larger 7/16"-20 Clutch Eye Bolts (like in the V8 Borg & Beck Pressure Plate) vs the Standard 9 1/4" Pressure Plate which uses 3/8" eyebolts and Nuts to set finger height.

3/8" eyebolts on the Left, whilst 7/16" eyebolts on the right.
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The ones I had to take out were pretty crunchy as the rebuilder had welded the fingers to the adjustment net to keep the finger heights from changing, like this:
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So I had to really Grind a bunch of material off to get the nuts loose to disassemble the pressure plate from the cage.
Usually they are peened over to keep the adjustment, But I suppose that cann come loose over time.
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I called Kentucky Clutch and they had spares of the 7/16"-20 Eyebolts and Nuts (shared with V-8's) to sell me. - The 3/8" ones are no longer in production, from what the gentleman on the phone had told me.

The Larger 7/16"-20 Eybolts and lever height adjustment nuts can also be found on the Slant 6 10" Pressure Plates - Listed for the Truck Application.
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Getting things cleaned up while I am waiting on the Parts to arrive:
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Thanks for the great rundown, Greg. Good to know I haven't saved that partially burnt 10" PP for nothin'.

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Any reason not to go with a Diaphragm type PP. ?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:30 pm 
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Rick Covalt wrote:
Any reason not to go with a Diaphragm type PP. ?



Not really. I just have this one here in stock and ready to go in 2 days.

I would hafta get the flywheel drilled for another style of pp if I wanted use another one. I love the super light AL Flywheel that I have in there now.

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Quick, easy and in stock! A good combination! :D :D

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