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 Post subject: Water in the head lights
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:48 am 
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Was backing out of a friends driveway yesterday night and found a strange flinker on the garage door. Got out and found both head lights filled 1/3 full. Pulled out the bulbs this morning and can't pour out the water. :shock: The bulb in there are H6024. (one on each side) I'd like to replace them and can't remember what was recommended as a bulb choice. I have decided to not do the relay thing right now but would like the best bulb that the stock wiring can handle. A part# and where to get them would be great.
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Best headlamps you can presently buy for your '67 are Cibie replaceable-bulb units. They are the 9th picture down from the top here. They are expensive, but give much better low and high beam seeing performance than the 6024s you have been running, with less glare and backscatter, and are meant as a permanent part of the car (when one burns out, you replace just the bulb, not the whole thing). The best bulbs for them are the Narva Rangepower+50 items, next best is the Rangepower+30. These bulbs are standard wattage so they will be compatible with your present wiring—later on, when you upgrade the circuit, you can increase the bulb wattage if you like.

If this headlamp upgrade is too costly for you at this point, then shop very carefully—there's a lot of trash on the headlamp market. Don't buy anything Sylvania makes, and Wagner's sealed beams are junk, too, as are all of the "Crystal euro diamond-cut" crapola all over eBay. If you must stay with sealed beams, see if you can get Fort Garry to sell you a pair of GE NightHawk H6024NH lamps; they're the least-cruddy sealed beams on the market.

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I am usuming the Truview H6024TV is just as bad as the ones i've been running?

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TruView and SilverStar are considerably worse than the ones you're already running. Stay away from anything that promises "extra white" light—this is a marketeering scam (they use blue/purple glass on the halogen capsule inside the beam, which tints the light, but in doing so "steals" about 25% of the light that would otherwise reach the road. So-called "whiter" light of this type doesn't help you see any better or reduce glare or do anything else good.)

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If I wanted to buy the nighthawk bulbs today and put them in today where could I buy them? Did a quick google search and not having luck.

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If I wanted to buy the nighthawk bulbs today and put them in today where could I buy them?
You likely cannot. That particular P/N you need for your car (H6024NH) is not widely distributed.

Unfortunately, you're kind of stuck: Buy bad headlamps locally right now, or buy good headlamps from away and wait for them. :-(

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Hey Dan-

I have a somewhat similar question. Right now on my 84 Ford van I am running a pair of Cibie H4 headlights that come off of a Porshe 911. I bought them second hand off of eBay. The actualy housing for the light has light surface rust on the interior of the reflector. Do you know of anyway to take the lense off of the reflector and clean up the interior of the reflector? The lights have always seemed kind of dim (but I also have an electrical system issue on the van) and I want to get them as bright as possible without going to the 55/110 watt bulbs.


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Right now on my 84 Ford van I am running a pair of Cibie H4 headlights that come off of a Porshe 911. I bought them second hand off of eBay. The actualy housing for the light has light surface rust on the interior of the reflector.
They're dead-dead-dead, time for new ones. By the time the reflectors begin to look a little foggy, they're toast. Keep in mind, flawless brand-new show chrome is only about 67% reflective. The shiny stuff on a headlamp reflector is over 99% reflective. Visually, you'd have a tough time telling the shiny stuff on the headlamp reflector from the shiny stuff on the show-chromed bumper, so think about how low the reflectivity is when there's actual, visible degradation to the surface!

Your headlamps are now at least twenty-three years old (and could be older; Cibie's been making headlamps for a lot of years). They don't last forever, and it's time for a new set. The reflectors cannot be cleaned, and chrome would not make an effective restoration finish (see above)—I've even had people ask if they can just spray the reflectors with "chrome" paint from the hardware store, eek, no! :shock: There is a process by which reflectors can be refurbished, but it's involved and much more expensive than just buying new lamps, so it's best reserved for irreplaceable lamps, which yours aren't.
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The lights have always seemed kind of dim (but I also have an electrical system issue on the van) and I want to get them as bright as possible without going to the 55/110 watt bulbs.
Whatever other electrical issue you've got, remember that Ford's headlamp circuitry on that '84 is about as pathetic as the equally-marginal wiring Chrysler used. Tons of voltage drop resulting in huge losses of output. The stock wiring is barely adequate, when brand new, for stock-wattage bulbs. It certainly wasn't adequate when new to feed overwattage bulbs of any type, and science has yet to give us the wiring that improves with age! See here. New headlamps, set of relays, aim them carefully and you'll be all set.

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Okay, thanks. I have been planning to take the van out of commission for a complete re-wire and front end rebuild and I was going to add relays when I did that. Sounds like I will be ordering a pair of new lights from you!


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