yes they are a winner stay tuned Thanks Ron Parker












Hey Has That Thing Got A Bagel Bamboozler In It

Possum, pop me a PM of where I need to send a check to.

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As for the exaust, what about a turn out like the old pro-stockers? Your car would have full exaust for the drive home, but at the track just
un-corker 'er.

Hi Ron/Dennis/Doug et al: Great idea..Anything to get first time racers out to the track . At Redding last time, we had several new first time racers. All with basically stock and currently lisc. cars. We made a " sub-class" and ran all the slower cars together and it went over great. I have a 66 Signet that is "bone stock" It is currently lisc. with no engine modifycations. We run the "Dutra" style exhaust through the single muffler. It does have a 3:55 rear and it runs in the low 17's...This is a car that weighs about 3000# so think what you could do with a earlier lighter car...There is an up and coming racer from the bay area that cuts some of the best lights...he just needs a new ride...I think his name is Allen Dutra ...Go for it Doug...That would make a great article for Seymour or in one of the Mopar magazines. I just talked to the Redding raceway and we now have a $500.00 "purse" for the lst stock slant6 to run in the 15's.... Wayne in Chico

Hi Wayne. How "stock" does it have to be? No headers or aftermarket intake/carb? Intriguing challenge.
Paul

Hi Paul et al: The following "rules" are just my thoughts. I am sure as a group, we can fine tune the rules a little bit.

1- Gas station gas.. No "juice",
2- No EFI or turbo, blowers
3- Electronic ignition okay
4- No tube type headers..Modified cast iron exhaust like the Dutra's okay.
5- Mufflers have to be intact
6- Current DMV lisc
7-Full Upholstery
8- .060 over okay
9- Generators,alternators, fans must be operable.
10- Any DOT tire that will fit in original wheel well opening okay..no slicks.
11- Any original intake, 1 or 2 barrel okay. No aftermarket four-barrel or multiple carb intake allowed.
12- Head milling not allowed.
13- Stock compression pistons only..
14- Fiberglass replacement parts, hood scoop okay
15-Lightweight rims okay
16- Converter modifycations okay
17- Line lock okay
Comments, additions, deletions appreciated from the membership..Later from Chico, Wayne

SSRN Street car Champion , I think your intended rules make good sense to me. If anything the power adder guys can be at a disadvantage, its just harder to run consistant with a power adder.

Having to run Dot tires helps also. Kinda evens out the playing field for the ones that dont have upgraded suppension. Sounds to me like you have it setup for almost anyone can run and have a chance. No matter what setup they have they can run as long as its not a purpose built race car and meets the small amount of rules. That really should help bring more people that are willing to race. It dont take a fast car to win a race like this.

Although they dont hold the race called the " Bristol Classic" anymore a buddie of mine won the race three years in a row with a stock 64 Plymouth Wagon(dial in was around 18.00) that looked like we had just dragged it out of a field. LOL, they even got upset with us because the car set all year long without being driven from race to race (thats all we used it for was this race). We didnt even wash the car for each race and they made us wipe the car off and turn it to its best side for the photo shoot of the winners. We really got a kick out of beating all the so called "RACECARS" with this thing, it was a blast.

We did the same thing at the Buick race with a old 350 Buick 70 model(dial in around 15.60), all the Black shinny GNs running around and we had a cream color factory paint with a rusted threw vinal top that we had to pull the top off because it was blowing in the wind. The second year they even got to trying to come up with a way to take us out because they didnt want us to win with this old car. But all the big Black shinny GNs went down one by one until we took the win again. I think these was the funnest races I ever was involved with. You dont need a race car, just tune it & drive it, and you can win.



Jess

Ok since me and Bagel come up with our rules we were the ones putting up the money for the street car champion. Wayne if you want to start different rules for this that is fine with me. I am putting up the money rpracing for our national street champion this year. It will be presented at our championship banquit. If You want to handle it next year that is fine and i would support it if the rules are not to compilicated. Thanks Ron Parker

Can I get some clarification? I'm really interested and think my '67 Valiant would make a good stocker if the 3 speed were replaced with a 904.

5. Does the intact muffler have to be connected? Not that I plan otherwise, but someone is going to see this loop hole. I did after all.
7. What if my headliner falls down? Do I get DQ'd if I remove the remains? Are brand X bucket seats ok?
8. Cubic inch limit? A stroker is tempting.
11. Can I put a 500 Holley on a Super Six intake or are adapters forbidden?
12. Really? Shouldn't we just have a CC or compression ratio limit?
14. I really think this is against the spirit of a stocker and has the potential to really drive up costs. Then again, my bumpers are rusty.
16. So this means stock diameter torque converter?
17. I think foot brake is more in the spirit of a stocker myself.

Also, is my Ford 8" rear axle ok? What about my Erson 270 cam?

Thanks!

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I still Like the orignal rules that me and Dennis set up. I think inovation trying new set ups ect is a bonus. The first three rules restrict a lot of mods. But this is still braket racing . The car at the starting line must be street legal. The only question that has cone up is can the car be trailered to the track.
Ok lets try this at our Banquit if any body other than me and Dennis want to sponceir the national street car champion present your idea, rules,prize money ect and as a body we can vote on this. It is in our rules that this is where changes to rules are made or redefined or changed or modified. Input would be apprecatied. Thanks Ron Parker




It Aint Over Until I Win

Where are the original rules?

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IIRC, there weren't many, something like this:

1. Car must be street legal, registered, insured, and have all safety equipment on and working. ie: lights, turn signals, horn, wipers, exhaust.

2. True DOT street tires only, no drag radials, ET Street, etc.

3. Any power adder allowed, Rule #2 would take care of "equality".

4. No whining!

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I'm new to the forum, but I find this discussion crazy due to my ignorance. As an experienced west coast bracket racer the only thing I consider a detriment to fairness is a car with launch electronics (delay box) going against a car not equipped with the same. I like the 4 simple rules stated in an earlier post, but feel non-electronics cars should not be allowed to compete against foot breakers. SSRN aside, Most people with streeters haven't raced or have raced very little and therefore their lack of participation isn't about having a slow car thats not pretty, but rather the fear of looking foolish at the lights. I saw this at the last Mopar Vegas event in their non sl-6 street class. Why not have a "drag school" for the unitiated on a TnT night and encourage first timers to come out and teach them the basics of staging and launching. This will help build up the pool of available street cars for your events also.

I would take that bet Doc. I don't think you can do it. Let's see, what can we wager?