I'll post mine, you do the same.

Block-1970 198ci bored +.065"
Crank-Car Quest reground kit-forged-.010"/.010"
Rods-1970 198ci-rebuilt with ARP bolts-beam polished by Mike J.
Oil pump-Autozone 5 bolt blueprinted by Doug Dutra
Cam-Clifford 300*/.558"-20 y/o-bought used from Mike J.
Timing chain-MP roller
Crank scraper-Kevin Johnson
Windage tray-Mike J.
Pistons-KB Hyperteutectic 2.2 turbo
Head-Mike J-Ferrea valves/MP springs 1.71/1.5 valve size
Rockers-RAS rebuilts
Pushrods-10 Smith Brothers, 2 stock
Intake-Clifford w/1" open spacer
Carb-Holley 600DP
Nitrous-Top Gun 150 horse plate
Distributor-Stock Mopar electronic
Ignition-MSD6-AL
Headers-Clifford shorty

Trans 727Specialist 904 w/Griner brake
Converter-Midwest 8" nitrous/brake model

Rear-8-3/4 w/3.91 gears

Tires-MT ET Streets 26.0X10.5X15

Car-'66 Valiant 2 door post-3250# w/me in it.

Car has run 12.0's @ 108-110 mph the last 2 years at Monster Mopar. It was listed in MCG last year as having run 11:96 at MM, but that was bogus. It ran 12:06 spinning hard off the line. It went 12:002@110 the year before.

It also ran 12:001@108 at RT66 at a points race last year, but that was not an official Slant 6 race. It was in full street trim w/exhaust.

Car has run 14 teens @96 on motor only, and used to be driven all over the country to race.

Your turn tough guy.

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Official Cookie and Mater Tormentor.

He is not going to answer slantzilla, he don´t dare also he got no proof to help himself

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Mopar Muscle is well defend by Slant Six!

Valiant Duster 1971

Just trying to show that it doesn't take anything exotic or hard to get to make decent horsepower with a Slant.

The only big money pieces in the car are the Jeffrey head (around $1100) and the converter. (around $700)

The first 12:00 I ran with my old street Midwest 10" converter ($300) but I broke it. Midwest repaired it for free.

A lot of the parts I bought used. If I had bought everything new it would probaly at least double the cost of the car.

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Official Cookie and Mater Tormentor.

So it makes 235 hp off the bottle and 350 hp on according to the direct connection bible. Still, barely 1hp per CI. And still, they were going faster in the 60's with a NA motor. That mag I quoted lastnight with a new build went 13.06 @ 105MPH first time out in 1968 with no tuning. No transbrake or 8" convertor there either...etc. They used an isky 10-12B cam and similar sized valves in a ported head with 3 weber side drafts. Stock rods that were shot peened with max wedge bolts, stock mopar bearings and a mallory dist with an autolite coil.

You have a head that is "not exotic" but at $1100 most guys will not plunk down that kinda cash. We both know that is the limiting factor for any engine...you need to get the air in and out as efficiently as possible


Your car makes decent power as you say and I would agree with that. Personally, I think it should make more but that's just me. Most of the guys here are star struck because they don't even know which way the dist turns.

I've posted my chassis dyno pulls in the forums of 234rwp (I still think this is low and there is another 40+hp to be found before I open the motor up) and 309ft'lbs of torque with a stock Chrysler built 38 year old 80k mile slant 6 with 340 valve springs and a turbo. Dyno pulls are just that...nothing...I should make it to the track in September. The car (1970 Swinger) weighs 3365 with me in it and a full tank of gas. It has an 8 3/4 with a 3.23 gear. It has a 904 trans with a trans go tf3 kit. A mopar 175k convertor. Ignition is an MSD 7a and a points distributor. Offy intake and a holly 600DP

Avenger, I was out enjoying a Detroit Tiger's game with some good friends. Sorry for the slow response.

I didn't realize mike made windage trays. Do you have any pics of it? I may be interested in purchasing one.

I bought one years ago from someone in the south but it was a hunk of crap. the welds were cracked and sloppy, etc.

I have talked to kevin about his scrapers personally and we had a deal going for some other items but I haven't heard from him in quite some time.

So, a low 12 second street car is underachieving, huh?

My car went 14:92@89 at Martin with a stock motor and a 100 shot. Show me something with your stock turbo motor. 234 at the wheels should be a little faster than that.

$1100 for a completely rebuilt and ported head? New valves, guides, springs, keepers, reatainers, porting, milling, and flowing? I call it a good deal.

Unlike your buddy Mr. Twister, Mike actually sells good products and can support any claim he makes.

There is not such a lack of parts that we have to support people selling junk just because they are Slant parts.

6, if I remember my camera I will take a picture of my tray before I put the pan on Saturday.

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Official Cookie and Mater Tormentor.

That statement right there proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that you do not have a clue.

You crack me up. I had the fastest Slant 6 street car in the country for many years. You have not even made a pass yet, but you feel it necessary to belittle me, my car and many, many, board members at the same time.

Get back to me when you build some 12 second horsepower. Maybe then some of these "people who don't know which way a distributor turns" will be impressed with you too. Until then, you're just another leg humper.

Just one little question for ya. Has any of the builders of any of the fast Slant cars in the country ever personally dis-assembled your motor to see why it was so fast? Mine was.

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Official Cookie and Mater Tormentor.

Each of you have disassembled my engine. They were built by Chrysler in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You've had the experts disassemble your engine (well go bl*w yourself). That only tells me one thing.... they don't know what they are doing.

The car I used in my example ran 13 flat & 105 , 40 YEARS AGO !!!!! Certainly technology should have improved the Slant Six dramatically in that period of time ....what went wrong???? Don't get me wrong , I'm sure there must be others with Slants that run hard , but the samples I see in the ENGINE section , made me want to install a V-8!!!!

I've quoted articles from the 60's to show you that your stuff just isn't that fast. 14 teens @ 96 with a motor that heavily modified should run 110 without the bottle. I tried to be nice about it.

You say your motor is not exotic...lets see big valves, ported head by Mike J., 300*/.558 cam (ain't exactly small)

No need to be a tough guy here, I just want people to realize for the money spent , the power is NOT there ......keep looking.....

P.S. I'm not even going to start on the 15 second aluminum car , C'mon guys......

which way does a distributor turn.

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Can you post a copy of the article? I must have missed it. Would like to see the engine specs.
Don't quote articles from 40 years ago. Hell back in the old days, my 65 Valiant street driver with a basically stock short block and head, with a mild cam (.434 lift and 222 dur at .050) would run 13.4's at 104 mph and get 16-18 mpg on the road. Had a Corvair turbo. Quote what YOUR car has done recently. Dennis posted about what his car has done recently.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

See, poor Bren is confused. Charlie, I have not had it to the track yet, only the chassis dyno and I've posted those numbers. Your car that you just quoted is a perfect example of a good running car and with a 170 to boot. It's more impressive than the cars here I read about and you you did that a long time ago.

Here is a link to the 40 year old article. As an example, SS/AA ran 10.80s in 1968 and now they go 8.40s and the Slant seem to have gone in the wrong direction. Slantzilla's build is almost identicle to this.
http://markcowie.com/valiant/slant6/

Why are you quoting "The Australian HOT RODDING REVIEW" June 1968. Do you still have that old mag lying around your house?
I tell you what they spent a boat load 1966 dollars to get that kind of power. Compare apples to apples man.
Normally aspirated Dennis is putting out more power than your turbo car and you have the gall to bash him?
Romeo got 300hp out of his engine with out resorting to a turbo or happy gas.
Charlie was getting 356 foot pounds out of his 170 on the bottle.
Come on dude keep up.

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I really really hate to point this out, I really do, but, the article that he is referencing is a bout the 225 slant six, complete with pictures.

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David Kight
'62 Valiant Signet, White
'98 Dodge Dakota
'06 Jeep Liberty

Growing older is unavoidable but growing up is strictly optional.

70valiant, thanks for reading the article. You've just proved my point. BTW the car was in the United States and built here as well. The article was done for the Austrailian magazine. And yes, I have a ton of old magazines that I use for reference. You never know what you might learn from them.