Define "street car"

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Charrlie_S
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Most of the street car owners would say that it is a car you drive to the race track.
Out West we have a lot of so called "street" classes, the car must have DOT tires, current "tags" and a muffler, also no electronics or trans brake.
DD

I would not like to get to detailed in the rules but the dot tires,and what ever state inspection and mufflers. That sounds good to me! I know there might be some people the say that spray is not street legal and you could get into a big thing with that. Just keep it simple and that way everybody has a chance at it.
I know some people might look at my car and say its not a street car because of the striped out, no heat,roll cage with a tag look. That why you have to have 3 simple rules and thats it!!!!

Andrew

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I will not live without boost again. I just like the sound of the blowoff valve.

I do not think having two seperate classes is a viable option right now, we just do not have the car count. But you could definetly award the highest footbraker or street car in the points every year.

Maybe DOT tires, Tags, Title and let that be it??


Tom

Just remember, different states have different requirements for a "sreet car". Hell in Florida you can tag and drive a dune buggy on the street. doesn't even need a body. My Barracuda would not be legal in New Jersey, because of the exhaust system. Glass packs, with side outlets.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
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64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

I don't think we need to be that picky. If you live in FL then that is your advantage. My company will sponsor one of the ohio races for the fastest street slant. What do you think would be a good award?

Andrew

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I will not live without boost again. I just like the sound of the blowoff valve.

In my book (sorry Charlie), a street car gets driven to the track, which is what I've always done, and other times too. I would be interested in a street car shootout or year-end points award. I would make no restrictions on power adders, if that is what that person is running in regular street use.

Of course, if someone normally drives a car around town occasionally and to their local track, I would still include them if they trailered their car to a far away race - totally understandable from a "breakdown" standpoint. I prefer to drive my cars to all races because I just love to drive 'em!

In the end, I guess title, tags, legal exhaust, and DOT tires works for me too.

There are several guys (besides of course Dennis and Seymour) posting on this board that could be contenders if they were to spend some more tweaking time and get out to some races.

I think Tom/Ron's idea of a first-round pairing of footbrakers (random or on purpose??) is a great one. Personally, I am not really a drag racer yet, and I've gone up against Dale twice and Ron H once in the first rounds of all 3 Slant races I've been to this year - fair, but a little discouraging for some (don't worry, I'm still "on"). I raced the Coxes and Rodney in my two races last year, so one footbraker there.

Andrew, how about a turbo exh manifold prize?

Tom, what would be the point of an index race? I guess it would replace the Fast Four. This seems much less interesting to me (a spectator for now) than a Fast 4, but of course I am not paying for a Fast 4 car either.

Lou

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I am in no way suggesting replace the fast four but as Seymour pointed out it usually a bust. Three 10sec cars show and two fall out before the first round. Most spectators like to see heads up racing no matter what. They also like to see a pro-tree. My sugggestion of a 10.90 race was to intend to be a little easier on parts and a better show than the current fast four deal. It would also raise the amount of cars. Hamby is a legitimate 10.90 car, dale could be with a small shot of NOS and who knows who else may try it. Maybe try it a select event next year and give everyone time to dial it in.

This brings up another point, the Fast four needs to be run on either a .500 or .400 protree. Some of the novelty is lost running on a sportsman tree.


What do you guys think?

Tom Drake

IMHO, the pro tree is cooler to watch, and I don't really see the point of a sportsman tree since it's heads-up anyway. Maybe it takes so much time/concentration to set the car up to go, and that's just one more cage rattler? I really have little perspective here.

This was a big discussion at Gatlinburg, and most of the fast guys seemed spooked to run sportsman for the eliminations then switch to a pro for Fast 4.

10.90 index could be OK, but does take some of the mystery out of it. You're right that the Fast 4s have been a little less exciting this year due to breakage.

Lou

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The big issue with the Pro tree (one yellow, then green) is that it is hard to get any practice on it, most all the tracks and events at our level use the Sportsman start (a 3 yellow "drop" then green)

Keep the ideas, wants and needs comming!
DD

I guess my point is that on a .400 pro tree there is no practice. Zero out your delay and let the switch go on the first hint of yellow. There are not too many cars that can redlight on a .400 protree.
Most tracks on test-n-tune night will give you whatever tree you want if you ask.

Tom

Good point Tom, if you think about, this gives the fast reflex, "hot shoe" young guys an edge.
May-be that is why the "vets" are pushing for the .500 drop.
DD

Since our driver will be 70 next year maybe I need to rethink this......NNAAHH! He's still got it!

Pro Tree also gives the slower car a better chance. If he drills the tree he might make up for a slower ET on top end.

Tom

Lou, why are you saying "sorry" to me. My car qualifies as a legal street car, except for the slicks, and I can do something about that. I haven't had to buy racing tires, a friend gave me 8 slicks for free, so I use them. I take my car to the track (100 mile round trip) on the trailer in case something brakes. I drive it to cruises, and did the complete Turkey Run last year. My Cuda see's more street time, then track time. If there is a "street legal" class next year, look for me to be on DOT tires. When I run at Gainsville Raceway I run "street sportsman" class.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
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64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

The guys with boxes will leave off a .500 Pro tree just the same as a Sportsman tree. You leave on the top bulb anyway. Just gotta remember to roll some out of the box is all.

I honestly don't know if I'll make any Slant races next year or not. I'm just burnt out on driving long distances alone.

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