I've done the conversion from self-adjusting to manual-adjusting. It is completely safe and fine, as long as you keep your shoes adjusted, of course. EIS is a supplier of brake parts found in many auto parts stores. There are many others that may be available and equally satisfactory, but I know EIS listed all the adjuster/retainer/spring/misc brake hdwe when I last checked several years ago.

"DW"

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Wish I could help with sources as my manual adjusters are vintage 1963 units that were on the car when I bought it and removed at the first brake job, only to re-install 7 years later as the automatics were lifting off the backing plate and cost me two sets of drums and hardware before I figured it out which the manuals do not do...Dave

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I certainly accept that a manual brake adjustment system is good. In some ways even safer than auto adjust systems. Self adjusters are supposed to forgive neglect, but manual adjusters can be more accurate.

Anyway, Dave (GT63) gave me an idea. Where there earlier years where the 9 inch drums where used in a manual adjust situation? Then I would only need a complete hardware kit for one of those cars/trucks. Doing extensive web searching for "EIS" seems to find me only irrelevent things or surplus parts (would need EIS part numbers to find the adjusters). I'll call NAPA tomorrow, but the links I did find seem to indicate they are exiting this market.

Paul

Paul I can look up the part number for you, know these are bendix units and and have found these on my 63 Dart and my 66 Dart , Fell for the hype of automatic adjusters until I determined they were the root cause of my problems. Need to get correct spring kit to work with these and this was the sticking point as the idiot behind the counter tried to sell me a kit for the autos stating " there all the same" I beg to differ,as was stated previously spring MUST engage sprague wheel....Dave

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Hi Dave,

If you can find some numbers from your manual brake adjuster parts, or what "hardware kit" I want to order, that would be great. My local NAPA gave me a telling blank stare when I asked them for manual adjusters.

Paul

Paul, per my source, although long dicontinued you would need a LEE/ICE H26 adjuster kit. Will know in a couple of days if he can get, if so will post the information so you two can make contact.... BTW this guys fantastic, been doing business with him for 20 years and he knows his stuff.

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I am familiar with the EIS brand, my CarQuest buddies told me that they got bought out a few years back, don't remember by who.
For that comment about burning up Raybestos shoes, I think that they got bought out a while back, too, the new co. still using the name, but as in most brands, there are at least 2 different quality levels on about every application, within any brand you pick. Doing this for a living, tells me that you get what you pay for, skimp a few bucks here or there, whether to pad "the bottom line", or "they're all the same", or whatever, they're NOT.
Its not worth putting $3 cheaper pads or shoes on that ypu need to worry whether they will last the warranty (if not it means redoing the whole thing for free!) or noise complaints, in which case you wind up doing a jop 2X when you only got paid to do it once, IT'S NOT WORTH IT!! Speend a few extra bucks to the next level. There is NOTHING more important on a car than 1), the brakes, then 2), the front suspension, and a close and related 3) good tires. If the trans is out, for example, you ain't gonna push it down the street til it gets fixed, but if you can't stop, OH, (Enter desired expletive here)!!! All that I use is Raybestos, and at least mid grade or better, at that.

I beg to differ... The most important thing on a car, in my opinion, is the air conditioning!

"DW"

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I beg to differ, my past experience has lead me to believe that anything Raybestos is generally a bunch of crap. Have never had a set last longer then a year and then they destroy the drums in the process. Don't know who manfactures for Napa, but have had a set of their tru-stop on for 4 years now without any problems....Dave

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