Hey All,
Monday Afternoon Update:

The Standard Blue Streak FD478X HEI Ignition Coil arrived today at 2:35 p.m.

Spiffy, heavy-duty unit.

Am going to have to figure out how to assemble and install all these components in Lorrie.

Will keep you all updated.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Friday Morning Update:

Ordered the Control Module Heat Sink from Amazon last Wednesday, July 25, 2012.

During the transactions with Amazon, Amazon proffered the information that one could NOT choose the delivery method. They ship DHL, UPS, FedEx, and United States Postal Service (USPS), but THEY, and not YOU get to choose which of the carriers will get the job of delivering the package.

The last shipment from Amazon came to my street address by UPS.

Amazon has as the BILLING address, my Post Office Box Number.

They have as the DELIVERY address, my Street Number.

An E-Mail confirmation of the order, and a tracking number came yesterday from Amazon.

Everything is as it should be EXCEPT for one little item.

They have shipped the Control Module Heat Sink to my STREET address by USPS.

THE POST OFFICE DOESN'T DELIVER DELIVER TO MY STREET ADDRESS!

And there was no way for me to tell them THAT!

In the Confirmation E-Mail from Amazon, there is included a twenty-two digit Tracking Number.

So far, tracking has not been possible because the USPS Tracking Website has no information about the Item.

Am going to call Cherry at the Post Office and see if she will watch for the package. If and when she finds it, to notify me by a notice in my P.O. Box, and hold it for me to pick up.

At this point, want to make a comment about something:

This HEI Electronic Ignition System conversion procedure, in deed the whole "Renovation of Lorrie Van Haul" Caper has been liberally plagued with "glitches", the cause of which has been numerous.

Some of the glitches were caused by inexperience & stupidity. For examples:

The putting of Gasoline into the Fuel Tank without first cleaning it out. The Gas Tank STILL had to be taken down and cleaned, but not until it had been used to mess up Lorrie's Engine. That bit of malfeasance led to a whole domino effect of other glitches, which involved: Cleaning the Gas Tank; Replacing bent Push Rods; Loosening stuck Valves; Cleaning the Carburetor, and other necessary tasks done because it was incident with the main reason. For example, the installation of a working Fuel Level Gauge Sending Unit while the Gas Tank was out for cleaning.

All of this was a royal PITA, but there was an upside to all of this, and that was that in the dealing with these glitches, expertise in doing so was gained. But it cost some amount of funding, and took some amount of time. And the lesson learned from it was/is patience.

Some of the glitches were just circumstances. For examples:

Head Light blowing at the Inspection Station. The Condenser failing just as we were getting ready to go get the Inspection Sticker, and there are others.

Some of the glitches are caused by the "System of the World". For examples:

The above SNAFU with the shipping of the Control Module Heat Sink;

The sending of a mis-boxed part in place of a Control Module Heat Sink;

The sending of the NOS Mopar Electronic Truck Distributor to Florida instead of here as was originally intended;

The living out in the boondocks where acquisition of otherwise easily obtainable materials, parts, and equipment is difficult, if not downright impossible.

But, most of the glitches have been just "Murphy's Law" type glitches.

And that's where we are now. There is no way to know what all CAN happen. One tries to compensate for the possible. One tries to avoid the time, money, and effort intensive aspects of what is being done. But things happen, that after they happen, the cause of which becomes obvious. But ONLY hindsight is 20/20.

UPS Tracking said this morning, that the Distributor is on the UPS Delivery Truck out of Conroe, Texas, and is supposed to arrive here before the end of the day.

And the Control Module Heat Sink is due to be at the Post Office Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. If it ACTUALLY gets here, then can begin the assembling, and installation of the HEI Electronic Ignition System in Lorrie Van Haul.

At this point, a plate of 3/8" to 1/2" Aluminum Plate about 10" X 10", from which to hew a Mounting Plate for all the HEI Equipment would be perfect. Alas, where to get such an item is as yet unknown. Lowe's doesn't have anything like that. If an Aluminum Plate isn't available, some OTHER design will have to be made using the materials on hand. Am presently in the process of surveying the available materials and seeing what would work.

Anyway, with that said, the progress here has been continuing, although much of it has nothing to do with Lorrie Van Haul. There are health concerns of which care has been taken, There are logistical concerns to be taken into account. The day to day maintenance of existence here is being met. And the level of energy, funding, and environmental conditions are all going along at about the same pace. And the levels of angst seems to be within limits with which they are able to be dealt.

But once the entire complement of components for Lorrie's HEI Electronic Ignition Conversion is on hand, then will start another phase in the "Renovation of Lorrie Van Haul" Caper.

There are going to have to be important questions answered in order to actually do the procedure. There are those here who have done this before, but I am not one of them. We're in unknown territory here.

Just have to trust that everything will go as planned and proper, and that everything works as advertised when finished. Only time will tell.

We'll just have to wait and see.

There will be JPGs.

Hope you all are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

I can't wait.

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Hey Reed,
There is REALLY a strange situation with the Amazon Confirmation and Tracking E-Mail.

The E-Mail says: As previously mentioned, the USPS doesn't deliver to street addresses.

BUT, there is a hypertext link in Amazon's Confirmation and Tracking E-Mail that when clicked on takes one to the FedEx Smart Post Website, which says that the package is coming by FedEx and will be here July 30, 2012. And FedEx delivers to Street Addresses, but NOT P.O. Boxes.

This is the kind of thing on which the term "glitch" was conferred.

It's all angst producing.

Fortunately, the patience learned while working on these old vehicles is able to deal with the anxiety.

Anyway, JPGs were promised. JPGs will be delivered. You'll see!

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Friday Afternoon Update:

UPS delivered the NEW, NOS Mopar Electronic Truck Distributor this afternoon at 1:27 p.m.

There was a Tan colored Distributor Cap with Aluminum Terminals in the box with the Distributor and it has been crushed, and broken into six pieces.

On the NEW, NOS Mopar Electronic Truck Distributor, one of the Spark Plug Wire Towers is labeled as Number One. but on the OLD Distributor, the preceding Spark Plug Wire Tower is where the Rotor was pointing when the Distributor was removed with the Engine sitting with Piston Number One at Top Dead Center on the Power Stroke.

May have to ask some questions as the installation proceeds.

Anyway, we are now waiting on the Control Module Heat Sink to arrive. It is coming by FedEx on Monday, July 30, 2012.

Then the serious work of assembling the components will begin.

Will keep you all updated on developments.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Ouch. But be advised you can do considerably better than the original tan-with-aluminum cap. None of the genuine Mopar caps have ever had copper or brass contacts, and AFAIA Ray (Old Car Parts NW) has never claimed they do.
Also not sure where you are getting that this is a "truck" distributor.

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Hey Daniel,
As a matter of fact, the fellow (BikerLarry) over on the DodgeTalkForum, who is the guy who got the NEW Electronic Distributor for Lorrie, obtained a Heavy-Duty Distributor Cap for the NEW Distributor. The NEW Cap has Copper or Brass Terminals.
That was never an issue. Larry had already installed the Heavy-Duty Distibutor Cap on the Distributor, and just included the ORIGINAL Aluminum Terminal Distributor Cap in the box in which the NEW Distributor was packaged. it was not padded, and being not only quite rigid, but also brittle, it got crushed in transit.
Earlier in this thread, there was some mention that the Centrifugal Weights in a TRUCK Distributor were different than the Centrifugal Weights in an Automobile Distributor.

In fact, the suggestion was made to take the Centrifugal Weights out of Lorrie's ORIGINAL Distributor and put them in the NEW Electronic Unit.

When I E-Mailed Ray Orme, I specifically asked for a Mopar Electronic TRUCK Distributor, and Mr. Orme said he had them.

The gist of this is that I don't know of my own knowledge that what has been delivered here today is in actuality a "TRUCK" Distributor or not, but that's what was specifically asked for. Am just going to have to trust that the NEW Distributor is what is needed to get Lorrie up and running properly.

The ACD-10474610 Control Module Heat Sink is scheduled to arrive on Monday, July 30, 2012. Then will begin the assembling of the components into a unit that will be mounted at the Right Rear Side of Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine. It will have a heat shield to protect it from Engine heat, and am planning on having an air-scoop and 1.5" ID Flexible Hose that will bring fresh, dry, cool air from the Starboard Side of the Radiator back to the HEI Ignition Coil/Control Module Assembly to cool it.

Promise to have JPGs.

Anyway, thanks for the response.

Hope YOU are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

The only physical difference that MAY exist between a slant six electronic distributor intended for a truck or van use as opposed to a distributor intended for passenger car use would be the advance springs and governor. However, depending on the emissions package and other aspects, the exact same distributor was used in both cars and trucks.

Since you purchased a NOS distributor, you might as well just double check that the grease on the weights hasn't dried out and that the vacuum advance pod still holds a vacuum, and then run it. Hang onto the original distributor in case you ever feel like playing with the timing advance curve.

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No. The weights are identical. The calibration of the advance mechanisms is different for each and every year and engine configuration, but all slant-6 distributors are physically interchangeable and many/most of the advance calibrations are functionally interchangeable.
No benefit to doing this.
Yes, he mentioned your email. He said yes because there is no physical difference between a truck and a car slant-6 distributor.
Yes, it'll work fine. Do not swap or change any parts in it.

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Hey JC,


Trying to visit forum with my cell fone. Guess it may work. Glad your pieces parts are arriving as planned for the most part. Hopefully no snafu with the heat sink. I will try and 'keep up" if I can.

Hope YOU have a good day.

MRO.....

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Hey Reed,
An area of esoteric knowledge which is for the most part, beyond me.
Am proceeding here under the assumption that the NOS Mopar Electronic Distributor is going to work just fine. Besides, Lorrie is NOT asked to do stuff like race, or perform anywhere near an elevated criterion.
And THAT is done by?
And THAT is done by?
Hopefully it will.
Have the ORIGINAL Distributor and will keep it safe. As for playing with timing advance curve, that is a pretty remote possibility.

Am hoping that Lorrie will turn out to be reliable, and trustworthy so that some much needed maintenance can be done on Ms. American 3.14159, who has always been super reliable, but has recent;y been exhibiting some quirks and glitches that need addressing.

Anyway, thanks for the post. Hope you are doing well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Daniel,
Alright.
Well, you see? There you go!
Hopefully.
Whew! That's a relief. Have been regarding THAT as being one of those: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it" kind of things.

Have a question:

When the Number One Piston is at EXACTLY TDC, should the Rub Block of the Points Set in the Distributor be PRECISELY on the apex of the Cam Lobe on the Distributor Shaft?

When the ORIGINAL Distributor was removed, the Engine had been carefully turned by hand to where the Point Set's Rub Block was sitting PRECISELY on the apex of the Cam Lobe on the Distributor Shaft with the Rotor pointing at Spark Plug Tower Number One on the Distributor Cap.

Am concerned about getting the Distributor Gear mated to the Cam Shaft Gear CORRECTLY..

Anyway, thanks for the post. Hope you are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Dusty,
THERE YOU ARE!
It apparently HAS.
It's been like pulling teeth!
It should be here by the end of Monday, July 30, 2012.
Alright. Just do the best you can.

Am getting ready to measure some of the parts to see what kind of "frame" or "base" on which to mount them is going to be needed. Have a couple of very nice "Brackets" that will fasten to Lorrie's Chassis, to which a Frame or Base would attach.

Have decided that the entire HEI Component Assembly will be just inches from the Distributor.

Will have JPGs.
Alright.

Anyway, nice to see you up and running again.

Hang in there.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Monday Morning Update:

Was out and about to do errands.

Got the bolts needed to assemble the HEI Electronic Ignition System.

Went to the Post Office to see if the Control Module Heat Sink had come in yet. The FedEx SmartPost Tracking Site said that it was delivered to the Onalaska Post Office at 3:30 p.m. on Saturday, July 28, 2012. The people at the Post Office looked for it, but couldn't find it. They said that it might be coming in today. They will watch for it.

This is another example of the "system" messing things up.

Amazon doesn't let one choose what carrier to use to deliver an item. I gave them my Post Office Box Number as the Billing Address, and my Street Number as the Delivery Address. Amazon chose to use FedEx SmartPost to do the delivery. FedEx delivers the package to the Post Office for final delivery. The Post Office doesn't deliver to my street address. So the package doesn't get delivered.

It's no one's fault. It's just a quirk of the system.

More delay. More Mule Meat!

Tomorrow will be five weeks since this whole debacle began.

Anyway, will keep you all updated.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

I do have the A-1 at the ready.. Still visiting via cell fone, but am trying to keep up with the servings. (of mule meat)
Hope you are having a good day...

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