Hey Reed,
GREAT!!!
Well, you see? There you go!
What I've done is made it so that the connectors at the junction of the Wires FROM the Distributor to the Control Module are the same size and same gender, and can be easily switched.
GREAT!!!
GREAT!!!
So THAT will hopefully be alright.
You/ve been GREAT!
Here too.

BTW, found this:


http://www.cranecams.com/uploads/instru ... 08874b.pdf

Notice on Page Two, there is an illustration of the FD478X Ignition Coil with the Terminals to which the S-539 Socket/Pigtail Assembly connects. And it shows that the Left Terminal (the one where the Red Wire goes) is the (+) Primary Terminal.

So things are finally coming together.

It's a bit too hot here to be out and working on Lorrie, but will be out tomorrow morning doing the FINAL hook up.

As was mentioned, am awaiting the MSD Spark Plug Wires and Socket to HEI Conversion Towers for Lorrie's Distributor Cap.

Am going to be assembling the Distributor Cap and Conversion Towers, and THEN, am going to paint the Distributor Cap/Conversion Towers Assembly Blue to match the Control Module/Heat Sink/Ignition Coil/Heat Shield Assembly.

Hope this finds YOU doing well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Don't paint the distributor cap. That's just asking for spark leakage.

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Hey Mr. S,
Is THAT right? Dang!

The Distributor Cap that came on the NOS Electronic Distributor was a Tan color with Aluminum Terminals, which alas, got broken by UPS in transit. It was packed loose in the box because it had already been replaced with another Tan colored "heavy-duty" unit, with Brass or Copper Terminals.

Then it was decided to add seven Red "Socket to HEI Conversion Towers", to facilitate being able to use a set of MSD 8.5mm Spark Plug Wires, which have HEI Fittings at both ends.

The thinking of painting the Distributor Cap was because having a Tan Colored Cap with Red Conversion Towers on it might look a little strange.

The painting of the Distributor Cap Blue was an effort to make it more esthetically pleasing since the Ignition Coil and Main Mounting Bracket on the Control Module/Heat Sink/Ignition Coil/Heat Shield Assembly are Blue.

But actually, it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference since all this equipment is UNDER the Floor, and can't be seen.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up on the potential problem with spark leakage.

Who woulda thunk?

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

JC,

Just crimp the Battery + AND the coil TO module into the spade connector for the connection on the module. Key on and it powers BOTH the module AND + side of coil that is dictated by the coil connector.JC your only worry is to get the key on power to both the coil AND module. As Reed stated using a ford coil, gm module ON a Chrysler engine that even the engineers didnt see coming... It will work, trust us. The red pigtail on the connector IS the + side of coil. The - side is the green with tracer. The extra wire CAN go to the green wire from your Tach, if you plan on using it. other wise tape the end or cut it off. here is the same as your drawing, and this is drawn from the way I did the conversion on my big chrysler...



Hope to have access for a day or two to chime in if needed. Listen to Reed he is NOT leading you astray..

Hope YOU are having a good day...

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MRO....

Cheap, Fast, Reliable.... Pick 2...

Hey All
Wednesday Evening Update:

UPS delivered the set of MSD 31183, 8.5mm Spark Plug Wires, and Seven, Socket to HEI Conversion Towers this afternoon about 4:00 p.m.

At first, the Conversion Towers didn't seem like they would fit.

But after taking one of them apart, it became obvious how they work.

They are a Plastic Casting with a Flat Head, Countersink Beveled Bolt with a ring of medium coarse Brass Wool just under the Flat Head which passes through the Plastic Casting. This assembly fits into the Socket Fitting on Distributor.

There are also three plastic Fingers on the under-side of the Plastic Casting that fit down into the Socket.

When the Flat Head Bolt with the medium coarse Brass Wool is in the Socket Fitting, then the three plastic Fingers are pushed down into the Socket Fitting and compress the Brass Wool.

Then the Nut (which is shaped like the Contact End of a Spark Plug) is tightened.

This pulls the Brass Wool and the Countersink Bevel up into the Fingers, forcing them outward against the interior of the Brass Fitting.

It becomes a VERY solid connection.

And here is how it comes out looking when everything is installed.



Was going to paint the whole assembly the same Blue as the Ignition Coil and Mounting Bracket, but have been told that doing THAT would invite Spark Leakage.

Also, this morning, got the Wires that go FROM the Control Module TO the Distributor installed.

Fabricated a Grommet mounted on the Heat Shield through which the Wires pass.

They then go through a pair of Nylon Cable Clamps which are held in place by the Bolts that hold the Valve Cover onto Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine.

From the second Cable Clamp, the Wires drop down to the Distributor.

The installation is VERY clean and sanitary.

Will have JPGs when the final Wires are installed.

Would have gotten more done today were it not for the fact that the County Road Maintenance Crew came out and graded the rocky road on which Lorrie and I live.

Then they did some maintenance work on the bar pits on each side of the road.

Then along comes a big tanker type Truck and put down a layer of liquid Lime.

Then another Truck came and put down a layer of dry Portland Cement.

Then another Truck came and put Water on the these two layers.

Then a bunch of "Steam Roller" type vehicles came and compressed the layers of Lime and Cement.

Then a Grader came and smoothed everything out.

And then they did the same routine again.

They ended up compressing the layers of Lime, Cement and Water and we now have a Concrete Paved Road in place of the Rocky Dirt Road that was there before 7:00 a.m.

The reason that it kept work from being done on Lorrie was because of all the Cement Dust. We were asked to stay indoors until the Water was applied.

Anyway, it was a pretty good day.

Hope you all are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Dusty,
THERE YOU ARE!!!
Alright.
Alright.
Have that all worked out.
We could call it the "Big Three Ignition System"!
Am hoping you are right.
Got it.
Am going to see if it will make Lorrie's Tachometer function.
Right. This is the one Wiring Diagram that you sent. My error was in assuming that the two wires from the (+) Primary of the Ignition Coil was the Green Wires because of there being Two Wires.
Am already DEEP into the installation. Wait till you see how nicely it is coming out. Clean and Sanitary.
Am tuned into Reed.
See the Wednesday Afternoon Update just before THIS post.

Hope YOU are doing as well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

That's a dangerous station to be tuned into...

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Casually looking for a Clifford hyperpak intake for cheap.

Hey Reed,
But the programming is VERY informative.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

In all honesty, the signal to noise ratio is about 60-75%.

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Casually looking for a Clifford hyperpak intake for cheap.

I'm curious- why do you need special adapters on the plug towers? Why can't you use regular slant six plug wires from the cap to the plugs? The Ford coil you are using does have a different terminal for the coil to cap wire, but that should be the only point in the system where the stock slant six plug wires don't work.

On my brother's 83 Dodge van I am running a Ford E-core coil off of a 89 351 motor and stock Mopar electronic ignition. I am using stock slant six plug wires. The wire between the coil and the cap is a cap to coil wire off of a 1984 Ford 351. It fits near perfect for the application. I did not have to use any special adapters.

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Casually looking for a Clifford hyperpak intake for cheap.

Interesting. Here in Washington that is called "fugitive dust" and has been the basis of lawsuits. Now, all construction projects that stir up dust are required to constantly wet the area to contain said fugitive dust.

Currently playing on the Reed channel, "French Star Wars disco ballet"

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Casually looking for a Clifford hyperpak intake for cheap.

Hey Reed,
"Signal to noise ratio"?

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Reed,
That is because Ms. American 3.14159 (the ONLY 1964 Ford Galaxie 500, Four-Door, Hard-Top, Fast-Back, Police Interceptor that Google finds on the whole World Wide Web) has an HEI Distributor Cap, and Black w/ Grey Booted MSD 8.5mm Spark Plug Wires. Since Lorrie is Ms. American's "Chase Truck", and Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine is painted to match the 3.14's Engine (Black with Gold Valve Cover and Air Cleaner), I just wanted to put the same Wires on Lorrie so that she wouldn't feel slighted. And the MSD Wire Set comes with HEI Connectors for BOTH Ends. Thus the HEI Adapters on Lorrie's Distributor Cap.
Probably could have, though Daniel's article recommended going to a better Spark Plug Wire Set such as Magnecore.

But the MSD Wires were opted for and are as good, if not better than the Magnecore wires, and besides, they match the 3.14's Wires.
Also, Lorrie's OLD Spark Plug Wires are the Wires that were put on twenty-six years ago, having been put on in 1986 when her Engine was rebuilt. It was just time get NEW Spark Plug Wires to meet/match her NEW Electronic Ignition System.
In doing all the research on everything about this conversion, the impression was gotten that the higher output of the FD478X Ignition Coil NEEDED heavier duty Wires.

It may be that the MSD Spark Plug Wires are just icing on the cake!

Am going to be finishing up the connecting of the Run Switch Wire along with the Red and Green Wires FROM the Ignition Coil to the Control Module today.

Then will make up the MSD Wires to fit Lorrie's Distributor and Spark Plugs.

And if all that gets done today, will charge Lorrie's Battery over-night, and see if she will Start and run tomorrow.

Will most certainly keep you all updated.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Reed,
Here in Deep East Texas it is just called Cement Dust. It got all over EVERYTHING. Don't know that it's not going to STICK to everything when activated by dew!
Don't think the County would "cotton" to someone filing a lawsuit over yesterday's attack of the Cement Dust.
That's what they did with the Lime and Cement that they put down, but the Cement Dust was long gone by the time they got around to wetting it.
May get around to watching this, though there is no sound on the computer rig that is being used because it is a DeskTop TV/Music Production System and isn't hooked up to a "normal" Sound System. Instead, it is hooked up to a Recording Studio and Concert Sound System which is a real hassle to set up and turn on.

Well, the ball's in MY court now.

EVERYTHING is here.

The following is the itinerary for today:

Finish hooking up the Control Module to the Ignition Coil and the Run Switch. This is going to involve installing another Grommet on the Heat Shield. Installing the Nylon Cable Clamps, and etc.

Make up the Spark Plug Wires. Which entails installing the Fittings and Boots that go on the Distributor end of the Wire

Install the Electronic Distributor and bolt it down.

Install the Spark Plug Wires.

Put the Charger on the Battery to top it up.

May even get up the nerve to see if Lorrie will Start and Run, but that may be better left to when I'm rested up from doing all of the above.

Will most certainly keep you all updated.

Am having some trepidations about Jake, the Black Cat.

He has been acting a bit strange.

He didn't come in to eat yesterday.

He had a sister (TanWan), a brother (Elmo), a half-sister (Doozy), half-brother (King Munster), and a grand-mother (traLaLa) who got anemia and just softed away.

Am watching him carefully.

He may just be being pissed-off for whatever reason, but it has me concerned.

Hope you all are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

JC, have you ever considered script writing for "Days of our lives"?
Fer 'evans sake hurry up and start the thing!
Who CARES about color, and what sort of towers are on the cap?:lol:

Sheesh !:roll:
regards,Rod