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 Post subject: Super six in a truck
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:12 pm 
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I found an 83 truck that looks very un-molested and very poorly cared for. Thinking about buying it worst case scenario parts, dirt cheap cause it has too be towed.

From the pictures the guy sent me it looks like a Super six, air cleaner and carb are almost surely Super set-up from the piss poor pictures he has sent.

Is it possible this is a factory set-up?

I thought I read a post somewhere on here that trucks could have had that set-up later?

Prob. going to look at it in the A.M and drag it home. Id like to have a better idea though.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:27 pm 
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my 83 D150,, purchased new by my dad in Sept of 1983 was OE built with a 'super six"

BBD carb and the die cast - electro welded intake


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:21 pm 
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my 83 D150,, purchased new by my dad in Sept of 1983 was OE built with a 'super six"

BBD carb and the die cast - electro welded intake
Thanks, that is what I thought.

Why have I read that this aluminum intake is desirable? Also have read that they were junk because of porosity problems.

I have seen the one barrel aluminum intakes and chucked them cause they were the beam welded versions. Are these 2 barrel intakes any different?

Thanks for the quick response, at least now I know in a few hours that what I am looking at might be an original complete set-up package. Lots of parts for my own truck, looks like it has cruise control/A/C ect and who knows what else.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:14 am 
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also found this info, from the AZ web site,, concerning 1983 D-150's with 6 cylinder motors.

6 Cylinders H 3.7L 1BL (found in 62% of 1983 Dodge D150 1/2 ton P/U 2WD)
6 Cylinders M 3.7L 2BL (found in 38% of 1983 Dodge D150 1/2 ton P/U 2WD)

I also have read reports of the two piece intake having leak issues at the joint where the two halves meet. The OE one on the 83 D150 shows evidence of a non factory weld repair, about 2 inches long on one of the runners. Repair was done long ago,, no other issues.

My thoughts are,, the die cast two piece intake has the advantage of being much lighter than either the cast aluminum or iron version.
And the weight reduction ocurs in the best possible place for the vehicle..
in the front end and high on the vehicle with respect to axel centerline.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 11:29 am 
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also found this info, from the AZ web site,, concerning 1983 D-150's with 6 cylinder motors.

6 Cylinders H 3.7L 1BL (found in 62% of 1983 Dodge D150 1/2 ton P/U 2WD)
6 Cylinders M 3.7L 2BL (found in 38% of 1983 Dodge D150 1/2 ton P/U 2WD)

I also have read reports of the two piece intake having leak issues at the joint where the two halves meet. The OE one on the 83 D150 shows evidence of a non factory weld repair, about 2 inches long on one of the runners. Repair was done long ago,, no other issues.

My thoughts are,, the die cast two piece intake has the advantage of being much lighter than either the cast aluminum or iron version.
And the weight reduction ocurs in the best possible place for the vehicle..
in the front end and high on the vehicle with respect to axel centerline.
Stupid question maybe but what is the difference between the two trucks listed, I see and H and an M.

I just returned home from looking at it and I have no doubt it is original un-molested with a cast iron intake.

Truck was not nearly as bad as I had envisioned. It is VERY rough looking and un-cared for, grandfather bought it new, he passed away and it sat, in the meantime grandson removed dash and interior wiring harness to replace cause he said there were issues. Interior is trashed/useless all the seals are rotten but sheetmetal was surprisingly pretty solid with only few rust issues.

He is going to deliver the truck maybe later this week and Ill figure out what to do with it from there. Its borderline parts vehicle though still.

It had the aluminum bodied dist lying in the bed, they installed points type to get it running at one point. The super six dist has no vacuum pod. Is yours the same?

I was hoping to get a good dist out of this but I guess no luck there.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 1:29 pm 
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and H and an M.
H 1BBL
M 2BBL

concerning the lack of a vacuum pod on the OE distributor,, that is because MOPAR was using their Lean Burn system to control emissions.
The OE air cleaner would have a rectangular box attached to it, that housed the Lean Burn processor. Later D-150's have the processor mounted under the driver side front fender, behind the battery.

The Lean Burn monitored iengine vacuum, coolant temp and used those inputs to control ignition timing. That is why the OE distributor does not have a vacuum pod,,Some folks use those distributors in racing applications where a locked distributor advance can be used,, but it is not useable for normal street applications, without the Lean Burn processor to run with it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:42 pm 
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and H and an M.
H 1BBL
M 2BBL

concerning the lack of a vacuum pod on the OE distributor,, that is because MOPAR was using their Lean Burn system to control emissions.
The OE air cleaner would have a rectangular box attached to it, that housed the Lean Burn processor. Later D-150's have the processor mounted under the driver side front fender, behind the battery.

The Lean Burn monitored iengine vacuum, coolant temp and used those inputs to control ignition timing. That is why the OE distributor does not have a vacuum pod,,Some folks use those distributors in racing applications where a locked distributor advance can be used,, but it is not useable for normal street applications, without the Lean Burn processor to run with it.
Ok yes I understand the lean burn deal, went thru this on my own truck but I was under the assumption that Super six engines may not have used this set-up.

Thanks


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