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 Post subject: Block oil mods?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:28 pm 
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Read the article about block mods for racing. There is a section describing drilling 1/2 inch holes between the lifter bores and installing 'stand-offs' to aid in lifter oiling. Where can someone get these stand-offs and how tall are they?

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When my machine shop does this process he uses valve guides and they are about 1/2 high .... eyeball measurement.



I'm sure doc Will chime in.



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 Post subject: Re: Block oil mods?
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Read the article about block mods for racing. There is a section describing drilling 1/2 inch holes between the lifter bores and installing 'stand-offs' to aid in lifter oiling. Where can someone get these stand-offs and how tall are they?
We used these in hundreds of circle track engines and we just used short brass pipe nipples.

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The main goal with this mod is to get more oil around each lifter so more oil drops down around the lifter & onto the cam / lifter surface, for better lubrication / cooling at the lifter to cam interface point.
Drilling the extra holes just helps crankcase ventilation.

You can use whatever... to make the stand-offs but these days, I don't use stand-offs much.
Instead, I have a large multi-flute 1 inch diameter countersink, with a long shank and I use that to put a large 45 degree countersunk "ring" around the top of each lifter bore.
The added recesses catch and directs more oil thru all the lifter bores.

Note: I always have to re-ream & hone out each lifter bore, after countersinking, to remove the burr the countersink creates. ( you want to hone the bores anyway, just to be sure they are smooth and have the proper oil clearance... just be sure do it
after the countersinking operation)
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OK. That pretty much answers my question. I honestly didn't see the need for the stand offs since the engine has a 30* tilt.
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If you need more oil directly to the face of the cam shaft lobe, you can use a tool like comp cam has, that will score a line when drawn up the lifter bore allowing a dribble of oil on the face...


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I hone the lifter bores quite a bit on the race engine.

No problems.

I have not done the countersink trick, but It's a good idea and will be doing it on future builds.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:34 pm 
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How much do you countersink it?

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I shoot for .060 with a 45 degree c-sink. (90 degree "included" angle)

The factory already did a rough countersink so some of the bores are easy to "touch-up" but others take a bigger cut and more work.
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