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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:43 pm 
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The guy had 2-3 of those choke pull offs left, I also got a "deal" email, $18.00 offer from them. I was reluctant because this carb that I have is meant to be a short term deal, as I have a super 6 stack here waiting to go on once I get the truck otherwise sorted out. But since I don't know if the one on there at the moment has ever been changed, or how long it's been sitting, or how long it might work since I am going thru the carb anyways, "why not"? I went ahead and bought it.
Let us know how it works. I am checking with NAPA to see what they have. 25.00 is a lot and I did not get a reduced offer when I watched the sale.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:19 pm 
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The guy had 2-3 of those choke pull offs left, I also got a "deal" email, $18.00 offer from them. I was reluctant because this carb that I have is meant to be a short term deal, as I have a super 6 stack here waiting to go on once I get the truck otherwise sorted out. But since I don't know if the one on there at the moment has ever been changed, or how long it's been sitting, or how long it might work since I am going thru the carb anyways, "why not"? I went ahead and bought it.
Let us know how it works. I am checking with NAPA to see what they have. 25.00 is a lot and I did not get a reduced offer when I watched the sale.
huh.... the post-er above said he got a $16 offer, I got an $18 offer. I havent bought a choke pull off in too long to try and remember, I am sure that tehre would be some sticker shock involved as compared to "what I remember" them costing haha..... there usually is these days.


I havent seen the TSB that was referenced, as to what this choke pulloff is supposed to solve/why its better than the original..... have to check it out.
I agree it seems like a bit much, even though I have little to nothing invested into buying this carb, I'm sure gonna have more tied up into it than I ever remember it costing me to rebuild a 1 bbl carb.... though I'm reaching back at least 20 years since the last.... I remember complaining when Id have to spend what I'm gonna have into this one, when I'd do a 4 barrel.... again, back then.... Ive done a few (not many) 2 bbls and 4 bbls since those days, most of my carb work these days, involves either a cast iron Kohler or Briggs and Stratton engine.... garden tractors, mobile air compressors, etc..... but when I saw what comes in a $26 carb kit for a 2 piece Briggs Flo Jet carb, (about 2 months ago) I wasn't happy..... wasn't much in the box.
I did find a float cheap on Ebay for it though.... old stock, USA made. like $5ish, shipped.
most parts for a Briggs engine, even a vintage one, come from across the pond these days....

With this choke pulloff I will have $40-45-ish into this Holley 1 barrel for my slant. alot considering that ultimately I want to swap the Super Six stack and BBD onto it, that seems like alot to put into what I hope will be a "temporary" setup....I got the kit and float off of Ebay…. kit was mid-high-teens$$, got an NOS Mopar float for $5....add another $18 for this pull-off, and there you go.

this carb did clean up surprisingly well, in the ultrasonic cleaner....I wasn't too sure what I was getting, when I found it in the boneyard. though I dumped the water + Simple Green solution and started over, 3 times in the cleaning process..... the throttle body was the worst looking of the 3 castings when I started, the main body (bowl) did have some barnacles within, though I have seen worse on other carbs there, in the past.... the airhorn was actually pretty clean but alot of the dirt, etc re-settled on the air horn, that had been left in the cleaner from the other 2 castings.... so I gave it a short clean cycle in that 3rd batch of water + simple green, didnt take long to knock that back off...

I did start to clean up the BBD in that 3rd batch of solution, that is destined for my son's truck and its slant..... ready for another dump-out and change

my truck is an 85, came to me with dead Lean Burn, a 1 bbl intake and a "shot," PO-attempted-to-repair exhaust manifold, the plan was just to replace the exhaust manifold and try to get it running, but after I found the replacement manifold and before I had a chance to dig into the screwy electrical on this truck, I found a super 6 for it..... too late for the moment, I already had the 1 bbl manifold stack bolted back on.....I have the ignition back fitted to stock style Mopar ECU (for now) , along with an NOS vacuum advance distributor..... so I need a carb with the vac advance port, for that to work out... so here we are....
I may wait til I get the /6 thats on the stand ready to go before I utilize that super 6, have to wait and see.......
I did run into a guy on (I think it was) FABO that had a pic of a "spread" of older Holley 1945s and their accompanying (used) manifold choke elements, I PM'd him asking about a particular one and got a reply to "make an offer on the pile" I don't need a "pile" of them, haha---- unless I can only make 1 good carb out of the 3 maybe????? I need to thin down my parts stash, not build it up..... trying to use what-all I have instead of having more to trip over....

I think the reduced price offer said that it had been sent to like 3 watchers, and that it was "good" to the 1st one to buy, or 48 hours/ which ever came 1st.
Usually via Ebay you can contact a seller, send him an Email via Ebay and ask if he'd give you the same deal on his last remaining part that he extended to the guy that bought his 2nd to last one? I've had success that way before, even when they don't have "make offer" as an option on a given Ebay auction lot.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:59 pm 
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Hey, Cranbrook,

do me a favor when you are under the hood next time. Look at your carb (since it is same carb number as the one I have) and tell me if yours has a spring wrapped around the throttle shaft. The one I have that's a twin to yours, does not have one there. The one off my truck, (same model series of carb but newer version) does. I can rob that one off the original carb and put onto this carb if need be.... as I remember (been a while) the past versions of this carb all had one, at least I know the carbs of this series as was on my brother's Feather Duster had one, don't remember if the one from my 80 Volare had one or not.... I'm thinking this carb I have, never did.... as grungey as it came to me, if it had ever previously been apart, it certainly was not any time recently.....


and on the subject of the TSB and its different choke pull off, I got that one from Ebay in my hand. While I cannot tell a difference between it and the original appearance wise, I did discover that the original would not "hold" vacuum, so needed replacement anyways... its possible that it had been upgraded in its earlier life..... or that it came out after the cut off date for which the TSB applied...


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:58 pm 
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Starting with the 1974 model year, safety standards required a redundant throttle return spring. So all Holley 1945s (first year of this carb was '74) left the factory with a built-in throttle return spring. Same with all '74-up BBSs, and BBDs, and 2210s, and 2280s, and ThermoQuads, and…

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:22 pm 
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1974 till 1978 on 1945 carbs, 1979 lost return spring on carb. Image


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:22 pm 
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thanks Dan, that's interesting.... I have a 1980 factory manual and the pix it shows for this series carb don't show it.... but does on the other possible carbs on a '80 Mopar... (BBD, TQ) I thought the redundancy requirement was met by having 2 throttle return springs from the outside of the throttle bellcrank to a fixed point on the engine, rather than just 1 (which would be heavier obviously than either of the 2, that I usually see. I guess I'll pull the orig 1985 carb apart and rob that one then....


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:23 pm 
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74 up to 78Image


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:25 pm 
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79 and 80 maybe laterImage


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:26 pm 
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yeah, that's kind of what I was (vaguely) remembering.... that this carb don't have.
I watched the Chrysler training vid on this carb, linked in another thread on this site (from 1974) and there was one on that carb.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:29 pm 
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Image 2 springs one inside the other


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:21 pm 
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well.... scratch that idea..... glad I gave little to nothing for this carb to begin with.... something told me to fill the bowl with gas, on the bench....before I put it onto the engine glad I did...
as it turns out, the main body casting is cracked, where the needle and seat screws into it, I can watch the gas seep from the center-out, towards the fitting... so it's NOT just a bad gasket or something, the seepage comes from the other way towards that.... good thing this kit and float will fit the original carb, as a Plan B, I guess I will rebuild that one and make a different bracket for an adjustable idle stop in place of the idle speed solenoid. This truck is a project, and I just need it to start up and move under its own power at this point..... I don't have it licensed or registered yet.

and Cranbrook, if you want an NOS choke pull off diaphragm as was talked about earlier in the thread, get ahold of me.... wish I'd have checked this carb over better, sooner..... stupid me..... I know better too..... just got myself in a hurry.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:44 pm 
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Bleep, I already bought one but thanks anyway.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:06 pm 
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I was looking through my shelves and I saw this box. I didn't even know I had this. I saw an old man back in '06 driving and old dodge truck. I followed him to his house and we became friends. I bought my 1st Forward Look car from him. It was a 1960 4dr Plymouth Savoy with 17k actual miles. His wife wrecked it early in its life and he fixed it with a Fury front clip and never drove much after that. He only drove mopar. Years later I stopped by to see him( every couple months) and there was a dumpster by his shop. I knew it wasn't good. It was filled with shop manuals, parts, you name it. I found out they had already loaded 1 other dumpster. This carb was 1 in the dumpster. I ended up buying 4 more Mopars from the heirs. It looks like its been run but its clean and tight.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:10 am 
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Bleep, I already bought one but thanks anyway.
I saw a TOMCO "equivalent" on Ebay as I was looking for something else unrelated... about 1/2 the price of this NOS one, a couple of listings for the same part (both had same TOMCO PN).


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:11 am 
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I was looking through my shelves and I saw this box. I didn't even know I had this. I saw an old man back in '06 driving and old dodge truck. I followed him to his house and we became friends. I bought my 1st Forward Look car from him. It was a 1960 4dr Plymouth Savoy with 17k actual miles. His wife wrecked it early in its life and he fixed it with a Fury front clip and never drove much after that. He only drove mopar. Years later I stopped by to see him( every couple months) and there was a dumpster by his shop. I knew it wasn't good. It was filled with shop manuals, parts, you name it. I found out they had already loaded 1 other dumpster. This carb was 1 in the dumpster. I ended up buying 4 more Mopars from the heirs. It looks like its been run but its clean and tight.
looks like a Carter BBS.


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