Slant Six Forum :: Hrrrrooo? (Aluminum SL6 Head)

I am happy to put some $$ into a new aluminum head built in Argentina if you think it's feasible, Juan. I have no doubt it would be cheaper and as good or better than something produced here.

Also, this topic is a twice dead horse... People make mistakes and minds change...

Lou

But, Lou, it is winter. We must beat the dead aluminum head horse again and again and again.

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But, Lou, it is winter. We must beat the dead aluminum head horse again and again and again.

it's summer down here, so I'm gonna stop beating that horse, I'm getting sweaty and tired

...Doug has had a good design for an aluminum head for a lot of years, and still people want him to front all the cost of developement and manufacturing, but want to pay him peanuts for a finished head.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the market is just plain too small for an aluminum head to be profitable. You simply can not get enough people to agree on what they want to actually get anything into production....

I have to stop getting price quotes so I don't keep seeing how big of a money pit this project really is.

Hey, if I spread this project out over enough years, I tend to forget how much time I have already invested in it.

Author:	dakight [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:12 am ]
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Well, here's where I am, and I suspect that I'm more or less representative of most who are trying to put a car on the street. I have pretty stringent budget limits which means that it would be a very long time before I would/could consider putting $1500 into an aluminum head, let alone $3000+. I have to do things incrementally and a large sum for a head of doubtful benefit for my purposes just isn't going to happen. If there are enough racers out there who are willing to put up the cash to make it happen then more power to you but from what I'm seeing in this thread, even the racers are skeptical at best.

Author:	Dart270 [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:39 am ]
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I am happy to put some $$ into a new aluminum head built in Argentina if you think it's feasible, Juan. I have no doubt it would be cheaper and as good or better than something produced here. Also, this topic is a twice dead horse... People make mistakes and minds change... Lou

Author:	slantzilla [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:46 am ]
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Quote: I am happy to put some $$ into a new aluminum head built in Argentina if you think it's feasible, Juan. I have no doubt it would be cheaper and as good or better than something produced here. Also, this topic is a twice dead horse... People make mistakes and minds change... Lou But, Lou, it is winter. We must beat the dead aluminum head horse again and again and again.

Author:	argentina-slantsixer [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:56 am ]
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Quote: But, Lou, it is winter. We must beat the dead aluminum head horse again and again and again. it's summer down here, so I'm gonna stop beating that horse, I'm getting sweaty and tired

Author:	slantzilla [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:42 am ]
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Quote: Quote: But, Lou, it is winter. We must beat the dead aluminum head horse again and again and again. it's summer down here, so I'm gonna stop beating that horse, I'm getting sweaty and tired

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Author:	Dart270 [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:18 pm ]
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It works better, after a good nap, to beat a dead horse with an 80 lb iron head, but you can get more reps with a 35 lb aluminum one... Sweat is in the eye of the beholden. I believe I have made myself crystal clear. Lou

Author:	Doctor Dodge [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:42 pm ]
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Quote: ...Doug has had a good design for an aluminum head for a lot of years, and still people want him to front all the cost of developement and manufacturing, but want to pay him peanuts for a finished head. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the market is just plain too small for an aluminum head to be profitable. You simply can not get enough people to agree on what they want to actually get anything into production.... It is Winter so... I pulled out my old, dusty SL6 head blueprints and made a few changes. ( yes, I did get some "new thinking" just from seeing pictures of the ebay head. I also pulled out my head mock-up, which is still in good shape after sitting for 5 years. I think I will sink another 10 or 20 hours of my free time into making a port shapes and a flow box, then see if I can get Mike to spend some of his "free time" flow testing them. As I continue to beat this horse,.. I sink a little more of my time into this effort every few years and the project moves forward another step. (First I made the prints and got price quotes, then I made the mock-up and got price quotes) I have to stop getting price quotes so I don't keep seeing how big of a money pit this project really is. Hey, f I spread this project out over enough years, I tend to forget how much time I have already invested in it. DD

Author:	Dart270 [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:00 pm ]
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Well Doug, I feel that the pool of possible buyers/funders is still growing. I personally have a bit more free $$ and would like to support your efforts. Hope we can meet to chat about this in person sometime this year! Lou

Author:	Tim Keith [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:01 pm ]
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There is still no affordable flathead Ford 8 block casting, and those guys really need one. Hmmm... actually they finally have one. I guess anything is possible. http://www.motorcityspeedequipment.com/ ... d=newblock

Author:	SlantSixDan [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:22 pm ]
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Quote: I have to stop getting price quotes so I don't keep seeing how big of a money pit this project really is. Hey, if I spread this project out over enough years, I tend to forget how much time I have already invested in it. Those are the first two unSkills you have to unLearn in order to be a car hobbyist without (realizing you're) going insane: unRemembering how to count, and unLearning how to remember!

Author:	sandy in BC [ Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:16 pm ]
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I am amazed what one can miss when one goes a week without internet service or telephone. I think I might revive the Supra head on the slant hoax.....bolts right on ya know....just have to figure out how to get the intake to not angle up through the hood....used a bicycle chain for the cam drive....

Author:	Tim Keith [ Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:22 pm ]
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I think SL6 racers have already exceeded the common 3.27" bore M series Toyota Supra six. The furious 2JZ-GTE is is even more robust than the SL6 : "The stock 2JZ-GTE stock engine components are astonishingly rugged, capable of withstanding power outputs of over 1000 bhp". Maybe that claim is hype, but I think it's probably true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra An improved SL6 block is probably also needed if a improved head is going to actually make a lot more power. Can a stock SL6 block handle 700 HP?

Author:	Terencejiminy [ Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:20 am ]
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Dan and the gang, I know I am jumping in with my 2 cents here in the 11th hour BUT it floors me how parts like this get snuck out of Auburn Hills (suposedly LOST in the move from Highland Park and Trenton Engine) and pop up on E/Bay hoping for the Dumpster Climber's retirement fund to be replenished. Some drastic house cleaning took place in the last 6 months at DCX and somebody saved one of these (or more) from the press used to destroy the old R&D parts. The seller is a neighbor (In geography only) and I am knocked on my ass that what came into his sweaty hands was basically FREE, yet His reserve was NOT met at $1200+. Sorry but this turns my stomach. I know no group on earth values Slant Technology, no matter Old or New, more than we do. When this popped up on E/bay I put the word out for more info on this item with friends at AHE. I hope that the $1200+ he expects will clean the stain on his shirt and in his SUV, this and other goodies left behind. Terry

Author:	sick6 [ Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:45 am ]
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not to stir your pot a bit, but isn't that piece basically worthless to chrysler at this point? its 30 year old technology, so there are no trade secrets in there. there are no plans to resurrect the slant so theres no loss there either. the only thing they are missing is money out of their scrap sales. its a one-of-a-few item so its value is to collectors only. just us few oddballs in a small corner of cyberspace. I do not condone the action however, so please don't misinterpret me. I don't think stealing in any form is okay, and the re-sale for profit of someone elses work I have never agreed with (which is why I hate cover bands) so I do agree with you. I am only saying I don't think ma mopar is going to miss it. I am glad however that is still exists and didn't get destroyed in an orgy of erasing history, just not in the profit of it.

Author:	argentina-slantsixer [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:47 pm ]
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you were right 'zilla, much better after an "olympic" () nap near an ice cold blowing air conditioneer... () Nap Categories: A) Junior: anything less than 1 hour B) pro Amateur: from 1 hour to 2 C) NNA (national nap association) from 2 to 4 hours D) Pro-beater: 5 hours E) Olympic: from 5 hours on.

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