Maybe use a mirror and a light to see where the lifters should go? Just an idea since you can't see where they go.

Hey Robert,
Good thinking. Have been using a small flashlight, and have a mirror here. The procedure was inevitably evolving in THAT direction.

Have come across a tool that is made for extracting and installing Lifters. It works on the same principle as the flexible shafted "Three and Four Fingered Grabbing Tools", but instead of having fingers that grab an object's exterior surfaces, this Lifter tool has a collet that EXPANDS into the recess in the top of the Lifter. It too is flexible and would make it possible to get the Lifter into the Bore.

Have called the Hardware Store already this morning, and they don't have anything like what is needed.

Anyway Robert, thanks for the response.

Hang in there.

JC

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JC,

I'm not familiar with what the top of a solid lifter looks like. Will a hydraulic lifter puller work?

http://tinyurl.com/7kqkhdv

Danny

Hey Danny,
Called AutoZone. Talked to Chris. Told him what I was doing and what was needed. He put me on hold for a few minutes and then came back to say that he had a Hydraulic Valve Lifter Puller.

Asked him if it would work on Solid Lifters. He said he didn't know, but that it had a way to lock into the Inside Diameter of anything. Well, a Solid Lifter has an indented top.

Got ready to go to Livingston (needed some Coral Calcium from the Wal*Mart anyway).

So go to AutoZone and had taken one of the Lifters along. The tool grabbed the Lifter just fine. Bought the thing. $16.24 including tax.

Got the Coral Calcium and headed Ms. American Home.

Had some lunch and then went out to see if the NEW Tool would do what was needed.

Fifteen minutes later all three Lifters were comfortably ensconsed in their respective Bores. the NEW Tool worked like a charm.

So NOW, it's on to installing the Rocker Shaft, Rocker Arms, and Pushrods.

Am apprehensive that the Intake Valves are all fine and are not going to stick. So am going to use six of the OLD Pushrods on just the Intake Valves just in case Lorrie decides that she wants to bend some more Pushrods.

After installing everything, am going to turn the Engine over using the Starter to see if all the Valves will actuate properly.

If they do, am going to then continue to use the OLD Pushrods with the NEW Gasoline which hopefully will clean up any residual residue off of the Intake Valve Stems and Valve Guides.

After being satisfied that everything is going to be alright, will remove the OLD Pushrods from the Intake Valves and install the NEW ones.

Anyway, am going to go out and install the Rocker Shaft, Rocker Arms, and Pushrods.

Will let you know how it goes.

JC

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Well Jc here is hoping all goes as it should.

Robert

Thats GREAT JC. I have all the confidence that you have finally gotten the Mule Meat sufficiently chewed enough that the A-1 is no longer needed...

Hope YOU are having fun now...

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Hey Robert,
Am thinking of installing the NEW Pushrods on the Exhaust Valves ONLY.

Will put the OLD Pushrods on the Intake Valves (since they were the only ones that were sticking). That way if the Intake Valves are still sticking, Lorrie won't be bending any NEW Pushrods.

If everything is alright, then will run Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six for a while with the OLD Pushrods while the NEW Gasoline in the NEWLY sanitized Tank cleans up whatever residue is left on Lorrie's Intake Valve Stems and Guides.

Then later on, will remove the OLD Pushrods and put in the NEW ones.

Whaddaya think?

JC

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Hey Mr. OF,
Am going to be installing the Rocker Shafts, Rocker Arms, and Pushrods tomorrow morning.
At least for THIS particular mouthful. BUT, there is another mouthful on the plate that has to be taken care of.

Lorrie NEEDS a NEW Fuel Level Sending Unit.

Lorrie has a complete Stewart Warner Gauge Dash Panel which Gauges were bought back in 1985. All but the Tachometer and the Fuel Gauge work.

Turns out that the Chrysler Fuel Level Sending Unit that was in Lorrie's Gas Tank is no longer functional. Not only that, but it never DID work since 1985 when the NEW Gauges were installed.

Turns out that the Chrysler Fuel Level Sending Unit was not matched in Ohms to the S&W Fuel Gauge.

So NOW, am looking for a NEW S&W Fuel Sending Unit.

Have found one at SummitRacing. It is a 385CF.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SWW-3 ... refilter=1

Have sent a couple of questions to SummitRacing:

1. Will the 385CF Unit work with this OLD S&W Fuel Gauge?

2. Will they accept a MasterCard Debit Card?

Am waiting to hear back.

But NOW for the Mule Meat... If you click on the URL above, you will notice that SummitRacing can't ship the 385CF Unit till June 13, 2012! that's almost six weeks from now.

So what is being done is to have SummitRacing confirm that indeed the 385CF Unit will work with the 1985 S&W Fuel Gauge.

Then the project will be to see if another 385CF Unit can be found that can be acquired immediately if not sooner.
Well, am certainly relieved that the Lifter installation is finally accomplished, but in the process, have kind of over-done it, and am not feeling too well. Mostly it's just from being over-fatigued. over-heated, and over seventy. Will hopefully feel better in the morning.

Anyway, hope this finds YOU doing well and hanging in there.

Will keep you updated.

JC

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Hey All,
Want to check something.

In the manual, it says:
"The flat or the oil hole on the end of the shaft must be on top and point toward the front of the engine to provide proper lubrication to the rocker arms. The Special Bolt goes to the rear."

What does THAT mean?

There IS a little flat place on the top of the front end of the Rocker Shaft but it is SMALL. Nonetheless, it IS on the top with the Rocker Shaft in place on the pedestals. AND the "Special Bolt" IS in the rear hole of the Rocker Shaft.

But when the manual says: "The flat or the oil hole..." about what "oil hole" are they speaking?

Is there a right-side-up and and an up-side-down to the Rocker Shaft? And if there IS, with the little "flat spot" on the Rocker Shaft on top, is the Rocker Shaft mounted "right-side-up"?

When the Rocker Shaft/Rocker Arms/Pushrods installation began, the first thing that was done was to put a squirt of 10W30 Motor Oil onto each of the Lifters.

The the Pushrods were then put into their respective Lifters: The NEW Pushrods went into ALL the EXHAUST Valve Lifters, and OLD (used) Pushrods went into ALL the INTAKE Valve Lifters.

[When all the Pushrod bending took place a week ago yesterday, it was ONLY the Intake Valve Pushrods that got bent. That is the reason that ALL the Intake Valves have gotten the OLD (used) Pushrods. If any of the Intake Valves are still going to stick and bend the Pushrods, it won't be NEW Pushrods that will get bent.]

The aforementioned "little flat spot" on the very end of Rocker Shaft was then positioned on the top of the Rocker Shaft at the front of the Engine, and the Special Bolt was put into the Rear Hole of the Rocker Shaft.

Am assuming that this is alright so far. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The seven Bolts that hold the Rocker Shaft in place were then inserted into their respetive holes and tightened to snug starting from the Center and working toward either end of the Rocker Shaft starting with Number 4, then 3, then 5, then 2, then 6, then 1, then 7 (the Special Bolt). This order was repeated over and over till the Bolts were tight, but not torqued.

All of the Rocker Arms are within tolerance and all the Pushrods are held firmly in place.

Am going to be torquing ALL the bolts to 25 ft/lbs in the same 4,3,5,2,6,1,7 sequence mentioned above.

Am going to give the whole assembly a liberal coating of 10W30 Motor Oil.

Am then going to slowly crank the Engine with the Starter to see if all the Valves open and close properly without bending any Pushrods.

Will just have to wait and see what happens.

Will keep you all posted.

JC

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Hey All,
Tuesday Noon Update:

Got all the Rocker Shaft Bolts torqued to 25 ft/lbs.

Gave the whole assembly a coating of 10W30 Motor Oil.

Hit the Starter Switch momentarily. No bent Pushrods, no stuck Valves. Did it again and again till the Engine had rotated twice. Everything seemed to be alright.

Hit the Starter Switch and held it while the Engine rotated for about ten seconds.

Everything seems to be fine.

If the Rocker Shaft is installed right-side-up everything will be fine.

Now it's on to cleaning out the Fuel Tank.

Have let the Gasoline that came out of the Tank when it was removed a week ago sit to let anything in it settle out. Am going to be putting some of it back into the tank and swishing it around to pick up more residue and then emptying it into another container. Will do this till all the OLD Gasoline has been used. Then will put the OLD Gasoline back into the container in which it has been sitting to let whatever it has picked up settle out.

Am then going to clean the Tank with a detergent like "Simple Green" and a nozzle on the garden hose. Will fill it up and let it sit for a while (24 hours) and then rinse it all out.

Have felt inside the Tank and it is not metal inside. It apparently has a factory installed Sealant in it. There is NO rust.

Am now trying to find a Stewart Warner 385CF Fuel Level Sender.

Summit Racing says that it has them but can't ship them till June 13, 2012. Too long.

Anyway, work continues apace here.

Thanks in a advance for any answers, comments, and responses.

JC

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Hey JC,

This place claims to have one day shipping for that sending unit:

http://tinyurl.com/6pyxdcd

Danny

[EDIT] Can't link to the exact part I found for some reason. Just put your part number in the search bar at the top - they have it.

Hey All,
Tuesday Afternoon Update:

Have just ordered the Stewart Warner 385CF Fuel Sender Unit from Speedway Motors. It should be here Thursday.

To see the Unit, click here: (It's the second item on the page)

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Right-Swi ... ,7850.html

This is the first thing that has been ordered on my NEW Master Card Debit Card! It was really simple.

See? Sometimes things DO turn out to be easy!

JC

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Hey Danny,
Have just ordered the S&W 385CF from Speedway Motors (see previous post)

The item will be here Thursday.

But thanks for doing the search.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

JC,

I can't remember what you are doing about a guage but here is a place to start if you need one to match the 240 ohm sender:

http://tinyurl.com/bvxz3hm

Danny

Hey Danny,
Have seen the Stewart Warner Website. There are a couple of problems with it:

1. They don't sell single units. They refer individuals to their distributors.

2. All the Gauges that are shown on the page you referenced are 2-1/6" in diameter. The Gauges in Lorrie are 2-5/8" in diameter.

S&W still has 2-5/8" diameter Gauges, but you have to find them.

The S&W Gauges are set up for 240 Ohms showing Empty and 33 Ohm showing Full.

When Lorrie's Run Switch is ON, the Indicator Needle on the Fuel Gauge shows ABOVE Full, which I'm taking to mean that there is less than 33 Ohm of resistance in the circuit.

When the Run Switch is OFF, the Indicator Needle goes to Full.

Don't know WHAT it will do with the 385CF Sending Unit hooked up, but will let you know.

BTW, there is a 50/50 chance that Lorrie's Rocker Shaft has been installed up-side-down!

Am awaiting information about the little, teenincy, "flat" spot on the top front of the Rocker Shaft. Am questioning if the "flat" spot is REALLY that small?

Also, is the Bolt Hole in the back end of the Rocker Shaft the same size on both sides of the Rocker Shaft?

The Bolt Hole that is presently facing up is larger than the Bolt that goes through it. If the Hole on the other side of the Rocker Shaft is smaller, then the Rocker Shaft has been installed up-side-down and will have to be taken out and reinstalled properly.

The way things have been going, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Anyway, hang in there.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor