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| Author: | golembieski [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:42 am ] |
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When you think of it the slant was desigined in 58? i think... but they are fun to have a straight 6 ... Are they any other production cars with a straight 6 (VW VR6 don't count) anymore? And cummins don't count either that is a detuned big truck engine. |
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| Author: | Pierre [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:32 am ] |
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Jeeps still use them don't they? I know audi's still have a straight 5 model. |
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| Author: | golembieski [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:45 am ] |
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4.0L Ya i guess your right ... i guess modern cars don't need touque like a Jeep (or a 81 ram with 600lbs doing 75mph) lol. Looking at it the straight six lasted longer then any other engine config. 4 cyls came and went and came again. back in the day" straight 8's ... bet the torque was unreal on them.. |
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| Author: | mnecaise [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:54 am ] |
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BMW's use a straight 6. |
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| Author: | slantvaliant [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:53 am ] |
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There are some new inline sixes out there, too. The Chevy Trailblazer uses a 4.2 inline six with 275 HP. As far as older engines, remember that both BMW and Mercedes have had sixes that lean over like the slant. |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:48 pm ] |
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they came up with this engine by accident or by true inspiration? I think that they were fiddlin around with producing an engine that could fit under the new fancy low body design and they run into the /6, wich turned out to be the longest production engine in the world. and one of the most long lasting too. If you come to think about it, that might be one of the reasons for chrysler big crisis, huh? if you produce an engine that runs, runs, runs forever and has pep and can be easily turned into a street "beast" as well as racing... what'd you do next? |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Go bankrupt... |
Code: what'd you do next?Go bankrupt producing a Turbine engine... -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Tim Keith [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:17 pm ] |
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The 225 tooling was aging. It could have been reingineered and kept in production, but six volume sales were dropping. Most truck buyers were preferring V8s. The trend was towards more powerful and luxurious trucks, the 225 was too great in length for the Dakota. I see few new Ram trucks equipped with the V6. I believe the Jeep 4.0 is still an option in the Wrangler, this is the last traditional inline hold out of the Big Three, but the Jeep motor was never an option in the Ram. GM's new inline Vortec series could be adapted for passenger car use, the new GM 5 is pretty compact. Multi-port fuel injection fixes the fuel distribution of the inlines. |
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| Author: | northeast scamp [ Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:31 pm ] |
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I clipped this from Allpar.com, some interesting stuff relevant to the discussion: Lost slant six performance potential Dan Stern reported: The beancounters nixed the all-new 246 slant-six block, with proper side-fed hydraulic lifters, the high-swirl, fast-burn aluminum head in 1978, an the aluminum RG in 1963. The Slant Six had a lot of unrealized potential. (Dan provided the following list of slant six possibilities, most of which were never produced): A908, 1958-60: sand-cast aluminum 170 LG engine A909, 1958-61: die-cast aluminum 170 LG engine A785, 1959-60: Hyper-Pak 170 LG (Sold 1960-61 as a parts package) A826, 1961: die-cast aluminum 225 RG engine (sold from '61-early '63) A941, 1962-66: overhead cam 225 RG engine (in 1962!) A106, 1964-65: G-RG engines with 180 and 246 c.i.d. A218, 1966-69: 198 CID RG engine (sold starting 1970) A227, 1967-68: 246 CID EG engine with hydraulic tappets using added oil gallery in cyl. block A294, 1969: 4-cylinder derivative of G-RG engine (Preliminary designs of the 2.2?) A396, 1973-74: 225 RG engine with 3rd-valve prechamber [a la Civic?] A420, 1975-80: Diesel version of 225 engine A431: 1976-79: Aluminum fast-burn cylinder head for 225 engine A436, 1976-80: Reduced-weight 225 RG engine (hydraulic tappets - engine sold but weight was only cut by 12 pounds). A463, 1977-78 225 RG turbocharged engine A473, 1979-80: 225 engine with Bendix multi-point EFI A489, 1980-83: 2.2 litre 4-cylinder derivative of A420 225 RG diesel engine. A497, 1980-83: 2.2 litre 4-cyl turbodiesel version of A489 engine A513, 1981-83: 225RG turbodiesel engine (Source: A History of Chrysler Corporation's Slant-Six Engine, Volume II) |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Heh... |
Just as an FYI, Dan Stern does post on here occasionally as SlantSixDan. -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Guest [ Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:37 pm ] |
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C&D reader's choice polls are, of course, complete nonsense, as they themselves admitted. Many years ago, the Porsche 914/6 mid-engine easily won "best car under $XXX", "best new ???", blah. Problem? Yah. The car hadn't been sold yet. None of the happy voting morons had even seen one, let alone driven it. |
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