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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:01 pm 
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3) Expensive.......kits cost from 700 to 1,300 dollars here, mine would cost 150 dollars.

Once the door rides in the "up down position" not in the swing out position I think your car will probably "sag" in the middle and jamb the doors...Remember your car is a uni-body, and you have to crawl under there and gusset and weld the sub-framing together like the handler/drag crowd does to get the body to stay "straight".

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That doesn't make any sense... If that were true, then why wouldn't the car sag in the the middle with the stock doors open? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:07 pm 
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3) Expensive.......kits cost from 700 to 1,300 dollars here, mine would cost 150 dollars.

Once the door rides in the "up down position" not in the swing out position I think your car will probably "sag" in the middle and jamb the doors...Remember your car is a uni-body, and you have to crawl under there and gusset and weld the sub-framing together like the handler/drag crowd does to get the body to stay "straight".

good luck,

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Why do you go for the loooong and problematic way?

http://www.gaviotdoors.com/instalacion.html
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/ ... it_pro.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/ ... 40/IP1.jpg

That is a Mexican kit, I used the same basics for mine, the only thing that keeps me from make it is the shock things, by al theory things, the system works pretty well without problems or being difficult to make, install and use.

At first you open your door noramally, then at a point just go up, so easy!!, sorry if this reply sounds a bit harsh, but I already got my father telling me that once again I´am totally nuts for thinking doing something to the old Duster, even is it is my car!

Really people, I only need to know is those hood shocks can do the job (holding the door up and helping even a little to raise the door) or not.

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I say no. One hood shock wouldn't be able to do it, but two or three might.


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How about a set of KYB's?

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The only reason Italian exotics have doors that open that way is that they're so wide that normal doors would be a real pain in a parking lot.

And I've been trying to think of a tactful way to put this, but if you don't know how to calculate the forces involved in lifting the door and don't already know how much force you will need, you shouldn't be designing your own system. I once had to design a spring-loaded counterballance for a lifting door at work, and it wasn't easy. A system that's designed wrong can have all sorts of screwball effects, from being too hard to lift to springs that apply so much force at the top as to make it hard to close.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:26 am 
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Well, thanks for the answers and comments, just to add, 2 shocks make it, I will try to get a shock from a Mercedes Trailer cab to reduce it to only one.

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I'd like to see how it all turns out. let us know of your project, and good luck!

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Well, thanks for the answers and comments, just to add, 2 shocks make it, I will try to get a shock from a Mercedes Trailer cab to reduce it to only one.
I think it's a pretty cool idea. Make sure to post lots of pics when it is done. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:50 am 
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just FYI:

The decision was made to put lambo doors on the Tidewater Mopar Club '68 Fury convertible giveaway [raffle-off-for-charity] car; pictures of the process will be on our website at http://www.tidewatermoparclub.com in the near future.

Our experts have done other (non-Mopar) cars before and assured me that it isn't that hard. They plan to reinforce both the doors and the body and to not use powered actuators; just gas pistons.


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I absolutley LOVE this site, but at times I visit and I think some of you would like this to not be America. Let the guy do what he wants with his car. We might not like it, but it is his car!


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3) Expensive.......kits cost from 700 to 1,300 dollars here, mine would cost 150 dollars.

Once the door rides in the "up down position" not in the swing out position I think your car will probably "sag" in the middle and jamb the doors...Remember your car is a uni-body, and you have to crawl under there and gusset and weld the sub-framing together like the handler/drag crowd does to get the body to stay "straight".

good luck,

-D.Idiot
Why do you go for the loooong and problematic way?

http://www.gaviotdoors.com/instalacion.html
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/ ... it_pro.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/ ... 40/IP1.jpg

That is a Mexican kit, I used the same basics for mine, the only thing that keeps me from make it is the shock things, by al theory things, the system works pretty well without problems or being difficult to make, install and use.

At first you open your door noramally, then at a point just go up, so easy!!, sorry if this reply sounds a bit harsh, but I already got my father telling me that once again I´am totally nuts for thinking doing something to the old Duster, even is it is my car!

Really people, I only need to know is those hood shocks can do the job (holding the door up and helping even a little to raise the door) or not.
I've got a 77 Aspen wagon and the rear door lifts up with aid of 2 shocks. It's heavier than a single car door I would think


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