You would not believe the weird stuff that came up on a Google search for Gorilla hair.
OK Found it. Clausen, right? What's the going rate for a gallon of the stuff?
Found an internet source for $20.50/Gallon.
CJ
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:50 pm ] |
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Quote: how bout cutting a filler piece out of sheet metal, weld that in and then do the bondo skin?
There's a similar assembly 'blooper' on the hpak duster right in front of the driver's side windsheild, trimmed a small peice of 20 ga, welded it in so I had an 1/8" deep groove, then let the body shop do the rest.-D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:32 pm ] |
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Start with Gorilla Hair. Then a layer of fiber glass based filler, then finish with bondo. The Gorilla hair has long fibers in it that keep it from cracking. It is fiber glass, and will not wick moisture from the rear as bondo will do. Bondo will pick up moisture, and hold it against the metal, and eventually rot it out from behind. Finish up with bondo. I like to put a coat of self etching primer between the fiber glass and the bondo, but that is not essential. This will fill the canyon just fine. The car seen here was finished this way. It it looks fine, and has held up well. . Sam |
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:01 am ] |
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Another excellent product wich should preceed any application of any body work chemical,whether fiber glass, bondo, or primer is Captain Lee's Metal Prep and Conditioner. It is the only metal prep I know of which does not need to be rinsed off with water after it dries. You just apply your material directly over it. Since you don;t need water, you are not starting more rust. It is a marine company that shows up at car shows. It works like a champ. I have used it for years in all my restoration work. I use it on engine parts, suspension parts, transmissions etc. www.halonmarketing.com Sam |
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| Author: | ceej [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:18 pm ] |
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You would not believe the weird stuff that came up on a Google search for Gorilla hair. OK Found it. Clausen, right? What's the going rate for a gallon of the stuff? Found an internet source for $20.50/Gallon. CJ |
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:26 pm ] |
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You can buy it by the quart. Do you have an auto body shop nearby? Even places like Advance auto have it sometimes. I don't think you will need a gallon. Use plenty of pressure as you apply it. Wipe it down hard into the area you are filling so you dont; leave any pockets unfilled. Use really coarse sand paper to smooth it out. Something like 60 grit. Then when you go to your short hair fiber glass, start with 60, and move to 100. Then with your bondo, start with 80, then 160, then 280 or 320. General rule is to move up by no more than double the grit as you sand. You want to have no finer than 320 for your primer. You can go to 400 for paint. This is to provide the proper tooth for adhesion. Sam |
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| Author: | dakight [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:01 am ] |
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Also, you can brush some of the clear resin into the low areas to precoat them before you start filling. That helps to minimize any bubbles and encapsulate the ones that do get formed so that all the metal is coated and rust has no place to form. |
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:39 am ] |
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Great idea! This is just a question: does the resin itself have the adhesion of the gorrila hair? I don't know. I have never used anything as sticky and gooey, and disgustingly annoying to clean up as Gorilla hair. Although, come to think of it, the resin is pretty gooey as well. What do you know about that? One point though, is to keep your fiber glass filler down below the final surface, and do your final filling with bondo. Bondo is way smoother, and looks the same as the metal when prepared and primed properly, whereas, fiber glass has a different texture that somehow manages to telescope it's way through paint. Sam |
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| Author: | ceej [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:56 am ] |
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The stuff I've found at my Favorite Auto place is Evercoat Kitty Hair. It reads "Long Strand Fiberglass filler." It's also over $17/quart. Is this comparable to the Gorrilla Hair? What about Tiger Hair? A new marketing ploy for Kitty Hair? They all have the same descriptor. CJ |
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| Author: | knuckledown [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:42 pm ] |
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Finally good to see someone else excited about using lead. I had the opportunity to learn my leading skills while living in California. I worked for an Indian Motorcycle restorer who knew the legendary Bill Hines. I spent three days working with Bill, learning everything there was to know about leading. I spent 16 hours a day working with him, and this was when he had just turned 80! As far as where to get supplies, Eastwood is the best source in the states. Otherwise, I get my stuff from a blok in England. Shipping is pretty stiff, but I order about $300 of stuff at a time. Buying good quality tallow and tinning butter is the key. On the other side of that, using a resporator and wearing a disposable suit is a good idea too. If you want to know anything about leading, please email me and I'll help you out. |
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