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| Author: | dookdart [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:42 am ] |
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I have a drum/hub front set off my 71 Coronet (B body). I converted to disk. The drums are 10x2 1/2". Shipping is pretty heavy with the drum installed. All parts are in good condtion. I also have the 64 Valiant front A arm / spindles / drums and rear drums, all in SBP available. I converted the 64 to a LBP 8.25 rear and front to LBP disk. |
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| Author: | DionR [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:05 pm ] |
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I was looking for B van hubs, not B body hubs. Those hubs use a smaller inner wheel bearing and wont fit over my disk brake spindles. The inner wheel bearing on the van hub is even bigger, but the ID of the cone might fit over a disk brake spindle. Either way, I have my disk brake rotors to cut down for the hubs. Thanks for the offer, though. 
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| Author: | andyf [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:31 pm ] |
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I've cut down rotors before to make hubs. Well at least I did that trick once which was all I needed before I switched to just making custom hubs. The nice thing about cutting down rotors is that it is cheap, but then you're forced to live with a fixed location for the rotor. If you can't find the rotor you want then you have to build a custom hat and now things get complicated. For me it was just a lot easier to start building custom hubs and then using off the shelf rotors. Kind of like when you build an engine it is easier to use custom pistons and shelf rods than to do it the other way. |
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| Author: | DionR [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:30 pm ] |
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Quote: I've cut down rotors before to make hubs. Well at least I did that trick once which was all I needed before I switched to just making custom hubs. The nice thing about cutting down rotors is that it is cheap, but then you're forced to live with a fixed location for the rotor. If you can't find the rotor you want then you have to build a custom hat and now things get complicated.
True, but if you don't have access to the equipment, building your own custom hubs gets expensive, really fast.For me it was just a lot easier to start building custom hubs and then using off the shelf rotors. Kind of like when you build an engine it is easier to use custom pistons and shelf rods than to do it the other way. Not willing to go to aluminum hubs from Wilwood, and don't know of anybody selling just steel hubs. I think that includes even you, Andy. 
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| Author: | andyf [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:49 pm ] |
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I'll sell steel hubs, I usually have them in stock so why wouldn't I sell inventory that I have on hand? They won't do you much good though unless you have the matching rotors and caliper brackets so you might as well buy a complete kit. As for the aluminum hub issue; I wouldn't have too much problem running aluminum hubs on a light car. Lou runs some aluminum hubs that I built for him years ago. As far as I know he hasn't ever had a problem. Tim's red Valiant runs custom aluminum hubs that I built. The biggest issue with aluminum hubs is that they are a throw away part once the bearings get trashed. The bearing races are a shrink fit into the aluminum hub and can't be replaced. Also, the shrink fit tends to distort things so you get some runout in the brake rotor. The steel hubs I use are a lot heavier but they usually have less than 0.001 of runout. |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:22 pm ] |
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I have kept an eye on bearing adjustment and have had zero problems with Andy's aluminum hubs on Project V. Hopefully, he will make me more at some point. That car is about to get its new 270 HP motor after living with a junkyard shortblock and 200 HP for the last couple of years. We are currently at 2490lbs with 12 gals and no driver, and getting lighter... Seems like the steel ones wouldn't be more than about 3lbs, eh? Tim Werner's car is bada$$. Great to see him run at SFSF and hope I can get a ride in that thing sometime. Andy, any ideas of making Spring Fling Speed Festival sometime in that B-body? Lou |
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:46 pm ] |
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Lou, Can you refresh my memory as to the brake rotors on Project V? I know about the calipers and now the hubs, but not the rotor. I have Wilwood calipers for the 11.75" rotors, but that's a big heavy rotor. I wish I could get my '67 Valiant within 200 lbs of Project V. I'm certainly not adding weight, but getting rid of it would get into money. The lawn tractor battery and mini starter are the only weight saving parts and the car is about 2950 with about 17 gallons on board. The car was lighter with the 9" drums, but I like good brakes. Maybe I should ask Santa for fiberglass bumpers? Josh |
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| Author: | dakight [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:28 pm ] |
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Gasoline is around 7 1/2 lb per gallon. I would think you'd only run enough to get you down the track and back to the pits. Losing 10 gal will take out over 70 lb. |
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| Author: | emsvitil [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:01 pm ] |
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Quote: Gasoline is around 7 1/2 lb per gallon. I would think you'd only run enough to get you down the track and back to the pits. Losing 10 gal will take out over 70 lb.
where do you get the heavy gas?Avgas is 6lbs per gallon autogas is about 6.1 lbs per gallon |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:24 pm ] |
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Front brakes on the V are: AR Engineering custom caliper adapters to mount WW forged dynalites and aluminum hubs with long studs 73-76 A-body drum spindles 94-04 Mustang Cobra 13X1.1" rotors Braided stainless Goodridge hoses Lighter setup than the 11.75 Mopar rotors, and drum spindles are lighter than disc spindles. Saves 9-10 lbs/side over the 11.75" Mopar rotors and WW calipers w/AR adapters on disc spindles. Save about 20lbs/side over Mopar discs and calipers/brackets. ALL unsprung weight. Lou |
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| Author: | andyf [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:13 pm ] |
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Yep, that was a very lightweight system and the use of Mustang Cobra rotors means you can replace them without spending too much money. I'm not a big fan of the Wilwood calipers for street use but if the car is light enough you can get away with it. Any trouble with those calipers Lou? Pad life usually is fairly short with those things but once again, a light car really helps in that regard. |
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| Author: | DionR [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:20 pm ] |
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Quote: I'll sell steel hubs, I usually have them in stock so why wouldn't I sell inventory that I have on hand?
True. Just out of curiousity, how much for a pair?
They won't do you much good though unless you have the matching rotors and caliper brackets so you might as well buy a complete kit. |
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| Author: | DionR [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:23 pm ] |
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Never mind, just figured it out. 
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| Author: | DionR [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:09 pm ] |
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Man, can't believe how long ago this was. I'm embarrassed. (2) use rotors + 2.5 hrs of hard labor =  
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:01 am ] |
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Hard labor? You're supposed to bribe a guy with a lathe. That's a 6-pack job at the most. |
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