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Author:  Olds [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:38 pm ]
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Yes, 64-1590 will work.
I got some not very good pics but better than nothing :wink: http://www.usaraud.ee/?id=5_5_20_984
Also checked intake manifold...seems it is only one barrel. So this 2barrel car dont fit there.
What carb you suggest then? Please check those summit pages and tell what is correct one to order:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku
So guys, tell me honestly is this one barrel set up good for this bus (towing bus)? Or I have to think ordering some other intake for it to put bigger carb there?
Author:  66aCUDA [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:27 am ]
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If its geared correctly I wouldnt be scared to pull a trailer with a slant 6. I would be tempted to put an RV cam in it to give a better torque curve. And possably a Super six 2bbl set up on it.
My 2 cents worth.
Frank
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:51 am ]
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According to the pictures, your van is a 1986 or 1987 model. A 2-barrel carburetor + intake manifold + appropriate ancillary parts (transmission kickdown, air cleaner, etc.) would greatly improve its suitability for towing. However, this will involve importing parts — if you're willing to do so, by all means proceed in that direction. The special air cleaner for the van with 2bbl is hard to find, but there are more common air cleaners that can be made to fit. But, now I'm a little confused: your engine has a distributor with breaker points in it...? That would not be original equipment. Electronic ignition (without points) was original equipment starting in 1973, even on exported vehicles. Perhaps this vehicle was modified by a previous owner and retrofitted with a 1972 or earlier distributor...or even a complete earlier engine? What are the engine identification numbers stamped at the top-front of the block, facing the sky, inboard of the ignition coil bracket?
Author:  Olds [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:18 am ]
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According to the pictures, your van is a 1986 or 1987 model. A 2-barrel carburetor + intake manifold + appropriate ancillary parts (transmission kickdown, air cleaner, etc.) would greatly improve its suitability for towing. However, this will involve importing parts — if you're willing to do so, by all means proceed in that direction. The special air cleaner for the van with 2bbl is hard to find, but there are more common air cleaners that can be made to fit. But, now I'm a little confused: your engine has a distributor with breaker points in it...? That would not be original equipment. Electronic ignition (without points) was original equipment starting in 1973, even on exported vehicles. Perhaps this vehicle was modified by a previous owner and retrofitted with a 1972 or earlier distributor...or even a complete earlier engine? What are the engine identification numbers stamped at the top-front of the block, facing the sky, inboard of the ignition coil bracket?
The bus is actually end of 70 the grille is newer version. Also engine is 1972 and earlier version.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:14 am ]
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OK, in that case if you are staying with a 1-barrel carburetor, and ordering from Summit or another provider of the Holley II remanufactured carburetor line, then the one you want is a 64-1212.

You will also want one of the Electric choke kits — which one to get depends on whether you're keeping the 1bbl or going to a 2bbl.
Author:  Olds [ Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:35 am ]
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OK, in that case if you are staying with a 1-barrel carburetor, and ordering from Summit or another provider of the Holley II remanufactured carburetor line, then the one you want is a 64-1212.

You will also want one of the Electric choke kits — which one to get depends on whether you're keeping the 1bbl or going to a 2bbl.
Hi again. Little problem here. There are no 64-1212 in stock right now BUT I can have 64-3112 with very good price...can I use this carb?
Author:  Olds [ Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:41 am ]
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OK, in that case if you are staying with a 1-barrel carburetor, and ordering from Summit or another provider of the Holley II remanufactured carburetor line, then the one you want is a 64-1212.

You will also want one of the Electric choke kits — which one to get depends on whether you're keeping the 1bbl or going to a 2bbl.
Hi again. Little problem here. There are no 64-1212 in stock right now BUT I can have 64-3112 with very good price...can I use this carb?
???
Author:  ceej [ Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:28 am ]
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Correct me if I'm wrong folks, but the 64-1212 is a Carter BBS, While the 64-3112 looks like a Holley 1945.

You will likely have better results from the Carter. The Model 1945 isn't a favorite selection, though it may work.
Another possibility is the Holley model 1920, which I've heard good things about. I have not run one.

I ran the 1945 for a while with no major issues. It did OK, but was not an excellent example. I think DusterIdiot fiddled with it for a while, then pitched it in his parts bucket.

A lot of people swear by the Carter.


CJ
Author:  slantfin [ Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Welcome, new guy
The true Estonian way would be to weld a new flange onto the 1 barrel manifold, no? Somebody posted a picture of that a while ago. 8)
Author:  Olds [ Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:23 am ]
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The true Estonian way would be to weld a new flange onto the 1 barrel manifold, no? Somebody posted a picture of that a while ago. 8)
Tru Estonian way :lol: Yes, we have all machines to make this simple plate...no problem to make :wink:
So you think that smart thing is to make plate to put 2barrel carb there?
Author:  slantfin [ Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:20 am ]
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It might be a good idea in your situation. If the manifold gets messed up can you get a new one? There is a post about how to do the job , search for "one barrel to two barrel conversion". I don't know how to do the hypertext. The pictures didn't load for me, though. Best of luck to you.
Author:  Olds [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:32 am ]
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Do anyone have some pics or even better dimensions of this adapter plate?
I think I can make this adapter plate myself but I dont know 2bbr carb fasteners studs location and so on...hopefully you understand what I mean ;)
Author:  Olds [ Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:53 am ]
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Ok, guys little help needed again. Carb is still old (new is ordered). I changed contacts (set contact gap to 0.5mm) and condenser in distributor. Then was time to tune timing...motor started very good, warmed up...then I tried to set initial timing from 7 degrees up to 12 degrees but nothing went better at all. When I took bus to street then seems that carb is too small no matter what I did with timing. When to "play light" with gas pedal then bus takes off and accelerates quite ok, BUT when to trie to take off normally or even harder throttle then motor dies.
I afraid this problem is caused of this unknown Germany 1bbr carb not ignition or what you guys think?
Also what you guys think to change my intake to this http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku and use some 4bbr carb there? How big 4bbr carb is Ok to use?
One more thing. Carb what is sitting there right now is SOLEX 30/35 As I found out from google.com this is very tiny carb what is for motors up to 2,0 litres. So this could be the main problem, right?

Thanks
Georg
Author:  slantfin [ Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Offy
I think an Offenhauser is a good intake for your bus. Some like the Holley 4160 390 CFM (with stock cam and distributor). If no one answers your timing questions, PM to Slantsix Dan or, I think, Dusteridiot know such things.
Author:  Olds [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Offy
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I think an Offenhauser is a good intake for your bus. Some like the Holley 4160 390 CFM (with stock cam and distributor). If no one answers your timing questions, PM to Slantsix Dan or, I think, Dusteridiot know such things.
Ohh...I hoped that 600 CFM can use because I have one Holley 4bbr 600 CFM carb left :lol: I also thought that 600 CFM is overkill for this tiny motor BUT you know hope is thing what dies last :wink:
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