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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:14 am 
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I use Lucas 80-90, and right on the bottle it does state: "Standards: EXCEEDS ALL GL CLASSIFICATIONS. EXCEEDS SERVICE LEVEL API MT-1, API GL5, MIL-PRF-2105E, MACK GO-J, PG-2 LIMITED SLIP" (that was a copy and paste from details on oil from Autozone)
Hey Mr. OF,
I've never paid much attentione to this kind of thing. This is getting to be a real education.
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I am NOT up to what the spec was for your van, But usually you can find whether or not it can be used in Limited Slip/posi-trac/trac-loc/sur-grip diffs right on the bottle...
Good point! So went and got one of the plastic bottles of NAPA Premium Performance Gear Oil (SAE 80W-85W-90) and read the back label.

It says:

"NAPA Gear Oil is designed for a wide range of applications and is for use in manual transmissions and both regular and limited slip differentials. It is specially compounded for use in normal automotive service and the extreme pressure, anti-foaming requirement of high performance service."

So since I have three quarts of this stuff on the shelf, am going to just go ahead and use it. Neither Lorrie nor Ms. American 3.14159 have never complained about it so far.
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There are also additives that are avail in the same area as the Gear Lubes are displayed.
Will have to spend some time in that section of the NAPA store. Have never done that before. I usually go in and just ask for stuff and the counter guy goes and gets it.

Anyway, thanks for the post.

Hope YOU are having a GREAT weekend.

JC

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:49 pm 
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there IS a reason for using the term "starboard". You see, Lorrie is a right hand drive Postal Van,
JC, you seem to have it figured out but "right" and "left" in a car is always from the driver's seat - hence you have a "right hand drive". If you were looking at it from the front through the windshield it would be a left hand drive. "Left" is always the normal (in the US) drivers side. Same with left headlight, Left-front tire, etc.

Starbord is easy to remember because it came from before ships had a centered rudder in the rear. They had a board or oar on the side of the ship. Since there were more right handed sailors than left handed the "steer-board" was always on the right side of the ship if you were facing forward just like a car.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:32 pm 
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JC, you seem to have it figured out but "right" and "left" in a car is always from the driver's seat - hence you have a "right hand drive".
Hey Danny,
Right.
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If you were looking at it from the front through the windshield it would be a left hand drive. "Left" is always the normal (in the US) drivers side. Same with left headlight, Left-front tire, etc.
Right.
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Starbord is easy to remember because it came from before ships had a centered rudder in the rear. They had a board or oar on the side of the ship. Since there were more right handed sailors than left handed the "steer-board" was always on the right side of the ship if you were facing forward just like a car.
Right.

Another way that is easy to remember is that "Port" and "Left" both have four letters, and "Starboard" has more letters than "Port", and "Right" has more letters than "Left".

I use Starboard and Port when referring to Lorrie because Lorrie's Driver's Side is on the Passenger's Side, and that just sounds dumb! :)

JC

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I use Starboard and Port when referring to Lorrie because Lorrie's Driver's Side is on the Passenger's Side, and that just sounds dumb! :)

JC
Yeah you do have a valid point, it does sound kind of strange said that way. Back to the gear oil, I really wouldnt give it a thought as to poking aound in the oil section (unless YOU really want to) but an indicator of needing an additive would be a chattering from the rear end while cornering. The age of Ms Lorrie would leave me to believe that that wont happen. (usually happens after a rebuild of the traction device)...

Hope YOUR week end has been fruitful and pleasant...

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Some springs have a loop on the throttle shaft end that snap around a radioused groove in the shaft instead of through a hole.
If the posi is not detectable by driving or turning one wheel (worn a bit), try adding a little molybdenum disulfide to the case (1/2 teaspoon), I've noticed that to work on a clutch type posi more than once. How long I cant answer.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:46 am 
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Yeah you do have a valid point, it does sound kind of strange said that way.
Hey Mr. OF,
I have often thought that it would be kind of a fun thing to install a steering wheel on the Port side of Lorrie, and get one of those BIG stuffed Gorillas so that when people would pass us on the highway that they wouldn't be able to see me on the Starboard side. All they'd see is this big Gorilla looking like it is driving this big, old van. :)
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Back to the gear oil, I really wouldnt give it a thought as to poking aound in the oil section (unless YOU really want to) but an indicator of needing an additive would be a chattering from the rear end while cornering.
Have never noticed any chattering of the Differential, but then again, hve never been listening for it. Besides, Lorrie goes around corners REALLY slow.
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The age of Ms Lorrie would leave me to believe that that wont happen. (usually happens after a rebuild of the traction device)...
Am going to get some kind of "friction modifier" at the NAPA on Thursday just for good measure.
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Hope YOUR week end has been fruitful and pleasant...
It WAS, as a matter of fact. Had Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine running for a couple of hours. Got the A727 Torqueflite Transmission to finally start shifting into 3rd gear! :)

Am in the process of repairing some wiring, and switching the Tachometer Wire from the "+" Terminal to the "-" Terminal of the Ignition Coil to see if the Tachometer can be made to work.

Will keep you all updated.

JC

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:00 am 
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Some springs have a loop on the throttle shaft end that snap around a radioused groove in the shaft instead of through a hole.
Hey Mr. IP,
There IS a radiused groove around the Carburetor Pin where a Spring would fit, BUT there is no hole in or radiused grove around anywhere on the Transmission Throttle Rod. And there never HAS been a Spring on Lorrie's Transmission Throttle Linkage as long as she has been with me (since 1975).
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If the posi is not detectable by driving or turning one wheel (worn a bit),
Can turn on wheel and the other wheel spins in the same direction. That's how I was told to confirm that it is a SureGrip Differential.
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try adding a little molybdenum disulfide to the case (1/2 teaspoon), I've noticed that to work on a clutch type posi more than once. How long I cant answer.
Is Molybedenum Disulfide what is in a "friction modifier"?

Work continues on Lorrie here at a snail's pace. It's starting to get warmer, and much more humid here. Not good for me to work in. Will have to start working earlier in the morning and get in out of the heat and humidity by noon.

Bit-by-bit. Little-by-little.

Anyway, thanks for the comment.

JC

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:28 am 
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Is Molybedenum Disulfide what is in a "friction modifier"?


JC
Cant confirm nor deny. And JC seems that the formulas for 'friction modifiers' are kept under wraps.

Here is an example of a Modifier

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:23 pm 
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Cant confirm nor deny. And JC seems that the formulas for 'friction modifiers' are kept under wraps.
Hey Mr. OF,
Wouldn't you know. Propritary Information.
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Here is an example of a Modifier
GREAT information. Thanks for the link.

Lorrie won't start again. Think an Intake Valve is stuck open by the "varnish" residue left from the OLD Gasoline of sixteen years ago, and picked up by the NEW Gasoline on which Lorrie has been running on Saturday and Sunday.

Have posted about this over on the Engine Forum. Am waiting for responses.

Anyway, thanks again for the information.

Hope you are well.

JC

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:06 pm 
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Remembering a 71 Newport with 383, I think that long shaft on carb had (in order from carb) throttle cable, spring, kickdown link, washer, hairpin clip in radioused groove.
It had a tiny hole in the kickdown link just in back of and under the long slot (in the corner if you will) for spring.
Might have had another spring on the bellcrank for kickdown linkage, that being the next part to rotate on a shaft before going down to trans.
loo for a hole on that.

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