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Lou (from Minot, ND in the 64 Dart, about to cross in to Canada)
Did you get lost on your way to Bristol? 
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| Author: | '67 Dart 270 [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:14 am ] |
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Sam, mine were adjusted a few thousands loose cold before break in, then I set them 0.001 loose from spec warm. I also tried dead on spec warm adjustment. I'm not hearing any difference in sound. The performance has been good consistent at all these settings, though I'm told that a bit loose sometimes runs better. Many years ago I had a '70 Valiant and that slant seemed quieter to me, but hey, that was about 30 years ago and it certainly did tick. Memory is notoriously unreliable. I do think the sewing machine sound of a slant is unique, does give it character I suppose. brian |
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| Author: | bmimken [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:08 am ] |
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Sam, you said earlier that your issue has occurred consistently in the past regardless of induction types. I think you need to reconsider that it is a temperature issue. On an extended 70mph run, the engine is most likely operating relatively "cool". If you were to come to a stop immediately after like you are describing, I could see where the fuel is not mixing/atomizing at optimal temperatures. What t-stat temp are you running? If it is a 180F, this might be the cause. Try a 195F t-stat and see if you still have the same issues. If you are already running a 195F t-stat, please disregard my ramblings and theory... Brian |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:51 pm ] |
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Quote: If you were to come to a stop immediately after like you are describing, I could see where the fuel is not mixing/atomizing at optimal temperatures. What t-stat temp are you running? If it is a 180F, this might be the cause.
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:33 pm ] |
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I am currently running a 180, however, I have used a 195 in the past, and think this condition was the same. I cannot swear to this, but almost certain. Thanks for the thoughts. What valve lash adjustments do you use, Brian? Sam |
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| Author: | WagonsRcool [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:29 pm ] |
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Quote: My slants have always idled poorly when coming off a long highway drive, regardless of the engine, and the induction system.
My slants were the same- poor idle & low power after a high speed run. I always figured it WAS a temperature problem, specifically manifold temps. You put a lot of heat into the manifolds during a highway run, but while you're moving airflow over (& fuel/air inside the intake) keep things manageable. Come to a stop, and intake temps shoot up- (carbs don't like too much heat). You might try a "cold air" intake hose to the air cleaner inlet. This was one of the reasons I did EFI & headers on my last Dart. |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:28 pm ] |
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On ANY aftermarket cam, I always start with the recommended setting from the manufacturer, but I always end up somewhere else. If it idles poorly when hot and I feel everything else is in good shape, I back off the cam lash in 0.002-0.004" steps until the idle smooths out. Note that INT/EXH can be off by different amounts. Yes, I am talking about a full heat cycle and driving around with each new setting. If there is no noise, they are too tight, in my experience. I might start with 0.018"/0.025" next and see if idle improves, then go up or down from there. For a hipo cam, I usually end up looser than manuf specs. Interested to hear your results. Lou (from Minot, ND in the 64 Dart, about to cross in to Canada) |
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:53 pm ] |
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Quote: Lou (from Minot, ND in the 64 Dart, about to cross in to Canada)
Did you get lost on your way to Bristol?
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:04 pm ] |
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Isn't Bristol in Alaska?? Lou |
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| Author: | Sam Powell [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:14 pm ] |
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Lou, I wonder how close we came to each other. I flew into KC on the 6th and drove to central Kansas. Thanks for the advice. I will try setting them .04 looser and see how it goes. Sam |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:47 pm ] |
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Not so close. I went I-74 west from Indy, then north through MN and then up through ND to Canada. In Calgary now and will see Sandy tomorrow night. Had to develop a tune for high altitude with this old MSI ECU. Hope to solve that with MSIII. Your thread inspired me to lash my valves again and I tried 0.002" tighter as I was at 0.030"/0.032". Seems OK after 30 mi. Lou |
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