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| Author: | DadTruck [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
go back an listen at the 3:25 mark of the video "What's he Smoking Tony" says the development of the Slant Six started in 1858 That was 6 years before John Dodge was born and a full ten years prior to Horace Dodge's birth. Wonder if the concept drawing for the A body were started about the same time? 
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| Author: | drgonzo [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Quote: go back an listen at the 3:25 mark of the video
I clearly hear NINEteen 58.
"What's he Smoking Tony" says the development of the Slant Six started in 1858 That was 6 years before John Dodge was born and a full ten years prior to Horace Dodge's birth. Wonder if the concept drawing for the A body were started about the same time? |
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| Author: | THOR [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Watched the video in its entirety. I see where he's coming from with most of the stuff. In addition, comparative to the slant's contemporaries at the time, the manifold designs are much better for sure It was interesting to feed his info into my head and it got some gears turning. ~THOR~ |
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| Author: | DadTruck [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
for some reason I am not getting the impression that What's he smoking Tony brings anything really correct to the table. maybe it is because 1) if he is saying 1958 was the date for design and development for the slant,, that is just as incorrect as 1858. The slant launched in vehicles in 1959, that means it was available in vehicles the fall of 1958. To support that, the design and development work had to be started in 1955 maybe earlier. 2) the comment that the heavy wall sections in the crank case were due to the case also being available in early production as either aluminum or iron cannot be correct. The aluminum case would have its own unique aluminum die cast tooling and part print and the cast iron version would have its own unique foundry tooling and part print. The aluminum block and the iron block have many unique features and exterior and interior profiles that exist only on the alumimum or iron block. The iron block has thick cast sections because, that is how iron crankcases were designed back in the '50s. 3) the comment concerning the ram air effect of the stock intake and how clever the designers were to bring in sets of three different lengths is silly. Chrysler had real experience with ram air intake manifolds. The long ram manifolds for the V8s the Hyperpack for the 170 slant had runners 18 or so inches in length. To improve torque as a specific RPM range. The stock slant manifold with runners of 3 inches, 6 inches 10 inches, would have a wave that bounced so many times ram effect would be zero. And remember the early slants were 1 bbl carbs. With a 1 bbl carb, who would bother with wave tuning. The stock manifolds are what they are because they packaged well. 4)The long rod comments completely ignore the main reason of going with a long rod. You run a long rod to be able to use a lighter piston to reduce reciprocating weight. All that mumbling about affecting the angle on the crank pin is true. But that is a small price to pay for a better lighter pistons, with thin metric rings. And if you go with K1 rods, you pull weight out of the rod also. 5) the comments on staying with stock sized valves, ignores what Smoking Tony said previously about the head not being updated for the 225. Larger valves will flow more air. The 225 can use more flow. The most effective place to get more flow is at the valve seat. And that is fact. I can appreciate someone investing the time to make a video, and perhaps that video will encourage additional participation in the slant experience. So if there is room for more participation, perhaps there needs to be room for more BS. |
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| Author: | wvenable [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA95aRda9qg It's on the WWW-innernet it hasta be true! |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Unfortunately this clown is how Ford and Chevy guys think all Mopar guys are. My personal feeling is he is just a toolbag.
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| Author: | wvenable [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRz_quXLp0o Yep, Mopar guys are like that. Especially guys from Kentucky. |
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| Author: | Tim Keith [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
I'm sure he didn't mean to say "1858" - the Abe Lean'n motor! He did say he's going to use stock slant six parts, his audience is totally different from the experimental approach of making custom parts. There must be some advantage to being born with one leg shorter than the other  Youtubers have personalities - he shouldn't have videoed the seller of the Duster without the guy's permission. But, there aren't many that mention the slant six, some bad news can be better than no news. I hope somebody who watches the video decides to keep the slant six and not swap to a v8, but that's okay too. Its just old cars.
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| Author: | GregCon [ Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
There is no level of going fast that must be reached if it entails drilling that many holes in your car. |
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| Author: | Rick Covalt [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Quote: There is no level of going fast that must be reached if it entails drilling that many holes in your car.
I don't know! There are some pretty fast cars around here that are "holey" 
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| Author: | coconuteater64 [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Quote: Watched the whole shootin match. Don't use oversize valves- don't ever put a 198 rod in a 225. I have done it all - but have never built a performance slant.
I have a 198 with a 225 crankshaft, so I guess Tony wouldn't mind.
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| Author: | drgonzo [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
It's good publicity for the Slant anyway you slice it. Look how much conversation it has sparked here. Evidently I like cars with holes in them. When my Dart finally makes it to an event you will see it's full of holes, both quarters, floor pan....etc., etc. |
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| Author: | MadScientistMatt [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Quote: But really....saying that the 'genius' of the Mopar engineers shows in the different length runners is pretty one sided. It's awesome sounding to say they broadened the torque range of the Slant by using different lengths...but in reality (as always) the engine design was driven with a definite nod to packaging. The runners are different lengths because they pretty much need to be to allow the carb to sit halfway close to the engine. Compromise.
At that point, Chevy was using a log type manifold with short runners, and Ford used a similar log type design but integrated with the head. The slant design gave Chrysler more freedom to design a better manifold setup, and they did.He had some interesting things to say and some that I'd need to take a closer look at to be sure they're actually good ideas. |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
If you want to see a car with holes, look up a "Swiss cheese Pontiac". |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youtube video about slant 6 by Mopar Guy |
Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRz_quXLp0o
Says the guy from Southern Indiana...... Yep, Mopar guys are like that. Especially guys from Kentucky. 
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