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Author:  Slantsix83 [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:54 am ]
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The main problem you have is that the end where the mounting tab is must be mounted solid. No give. The length of the cable can give some flex or deflection too. But that is not you major problem. I have a cable as long as yours and it works fine. Get the end mounted correctly and see if it pulls your throttle open. The height of that mount in relation to where the cable hooks to the carb needs to be right as well. Move the throttle by hand out at the carb. See where it starts and stops and the arc that it moves through. Generally you need the cable mounting point to be a little below the point where it connects to the carb. That way it can fully open the carb.
Got it. I'll have someone help me fabricate a mount. It just has to be a tad bit lower than the connection on the carb correct. I have a 83 ford an ill measure out the height difference see if it helps. Than ill check how far the carb opens.

Author:  Rick Covalt [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:26 am ]
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tad bit lower than the connection on the carb correct.
Generally, yes. That is with the carb in the fully open position.

Author:  Slantsix83 [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:53 am ]
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tad bit lower than the connection on the carb correct.
Generally, yes. That is with the carb in the fully open position.
So when I make the mount I should have the carb fully open? Before I bolt it on?

Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:48 pm ]
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Engine RPM, transmission gear ratio, Rear Axle gear ratio, and tire diameter will determine (therotical)top speed


Greg

Author:  Rick Covalt [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:20 pm ]
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Look at he arc that the throttle lever goes through when you move it. If you make the cable mount too high it may not pull the carburetor fully open.
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So when I make the mount I should have the carb fully open? Before I bolt it on?
That is only part of it. This very hard to do on the keyboard. I think you need someone local to help you with this. But try this. Unhook cable from the carb. Have some one push the throttle to the floor and hold it. You go to the carb and open it wide open. Put your cable back on the carb while it is wide open. Now look at the cable housing and that will be very close to where it needs to mount.

Author:  Slantsix83 [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:48 pm ]
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Look at he arc that the throttle lever goes through when you move it. If you make the cable mount too high it may not pull the carburetor fully open.
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So when I make the mount I should have the carb fully open? Before I bolt it on?
That is only part of it. This very had to do on the keyboard. I think you need someone local to help you with this. But try this. Unhook cable from the carb. Have some one push the throttle to the floor and hold it. You go to the carb and open it wide open. Put your cable back on the carb while it is wide open. Now look at the cable housing and that will be very close to where it needs to mount.
So I somewhat got it here are pics. If I push the gas pedal to the floor the carb does open all the way an the response does feel better. It does seem to stick an the beginning of the pedal. But I'm thinking that's because I got a junkyard cable with the plastic parts from the top of the cable are broken and some of the metal strands are sticking out, I cut them sorter so it doesn't get in the way but that might be my issue. Let me know what you guys think.

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Author:  Rick Covalt [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:05 pm ]
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If it is opening the whole way, it should run much better.

Author:  Jase [ Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:32 am ]
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It's not the best set up since I'm not the best at modifying stuff that's mot meant to be. .
Everyone starts somewhere... and your willingness to even consider modifying something is a very good beginning. Keep an open mind and some determination to keep the end goal in sight as you work to find solutions.

Also a willingness to revise the first attempt as you discover and understand what is required, or something that initially was overlooked will improve the second attempt.. revise and edit, refine, and improve.. it is all part of learning, and some of the fun that can happen with old vehicles..

Another thought is that a visit to a salvage yard to see how the Ford carb throttle cable mounting bracket works on that particular carb can give your engineering mind's eye some possible solutions that can be adapted...

Author:  Slantsix83 [ Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:07 am ]
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If it is opening the whole way, it should run much better.
When I push down the gas pedal it does look like it. But it does stick or get hard at a certain point. So I'm looking at getting a better cable since the strains are poking out of the spring which should also help.

Author:  Slantsix83 [ Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:08 am ]
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It's not the best set up since I'm not the best at modifying stuff that's mot meant to be. .
Everyone starts somewhere... and your willingness to even consider modifying something is a very good beginning. Keep an open mind and some determination to keep the end goal in sight as you work to find solutions.

Also a willingness to revise the first attempt as you discover and understand what is required, or something that initially was overlooked will improve the second attempt.. revise and edit, refine, and improve.. it is all part of learning, and some of the fun that can happen with old vehicles..

Another thought is that a visit to a salvage yard to see how the Ford carb throttle cable mounting bracket works on that particular carb can give your engineering mind's eye some possible solutions that can be adapted...
Yes that's the first thing I looked at on how a ford carburetor was an I tried my best to replicate it. One of the good thing about older cars trucks is that they are alot easier to work on.

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