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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:53 am 
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Super, did you change the valve cover once you put it in? The one in the first pic looks like real chrome, while the rest are painted. If not, how the heck did you get it to look so nice?? :D

Pray tell, I know we've talked about paints before! But that's great.

Also, does anyone use clear over their paint?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:10 am 
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Nice C-body... '66 Fury? Glad to know that's turquoise, I suspected it was, but since it's an "order item" everywhere I go, I went with MP engine paint last go-round. I wish you could still get it in Plastikote... I prefer the finish over Duplicolor.

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Its a '66 Polara. As of now, the 440 is back out and getting some more improvements (long story with a moral at the end that goes "don't ASSume your friend's machinist isn't an idiot," but fortunately it was't horribly costly... :P ) It was an original 383 2v car, and I finally retired the poor 383 at 270,000 miles (and a quart of oil every 300 miles) two years ago. Here 'tis circa 2002:

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I agree on Plastikote. Duplicolor is definitely more demanding to paint with and gets "fish-eyes" if you don't really clean the parts first. On the other hand, I *think* (hasn't been long enough to be sure) that Duplicolor may hold up better in the long run. B/RB engines with stock "log" exhaust manifolds like shown in that first picture, or on the passenger's side even with "HP" manifolds are HELL on valve cover paint because the manifolds radiate so much heat onto the valve cover. Plastikote and MP paints both scorch over time, but so far I haven't had that problem with Duplicolor. Maybe their "with ceramic..." advertising actually means something.

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:13 am 
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Here are some more.

-S/6

WOW. That is a *wonderful* color combination, I don't care if its stock or not! I can't think of any other color that would look better with the chrome.

Great job!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:17 am 
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Magnum_440, WOW, that engine bay looks SWEET! Much cleaner than when I was down there and saw it in '02.
Yeah, well:

1) its empty again right now (see previous post, but you already heard the story).

2) I couldn't even begin to keep it clean with the old 383 in there near the end of its life when you saw it. It wasn't that it exactly *leaked* oil, it was that it had so much blow-by that I could have sworn oil came out through pores in the iron. EVERYTHING was constantly covered in a fine layer of 15w50 :P And that engine (sitting in my workshop still fully assembled) is just as filthy as ever- I gotta be careful everytime I walk by it because I swear it can still fling oil at me... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
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Super, did you change the valve cover once you put it in? The one in the first pic looks like real chrome, while the rest are painted. If not, how the heck did you get it to look so nice?? :D

MJ
LOL! I forgot I did that. :lol: Yes, I had a painted valve cover on it, but thanks to Mr. Schummers I now have a chrome VC on it. Sorry about that. ;)

440 Mag: Thanks. It is most definitely not stock. The head casting and block (& crank & rods) are about the only original items left! the slant was originally black/charcoal color. i wanted something with a little more contrast. I lucked out, the paint turned out excellent, and I love how she stands out in the engine bay.

Now if I could just keep that timing cover/oil pan "diamond-ended" gasket from leaking, I could keep the darn thing clean. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
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Now if I could just keep that timing cover/oil pan "diamond-ended" gasket from leaking, I could keep the darn thing clean. :roll:

Aaron

Heh...

Old Mopars don't leak oil. They mark their territory.

:mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
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Heh...

Old Mopars don't leak oil. They mark their territory.

:mrgreen:

That's called built in corrosion protection =) Keeps everything just right!

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I actually Have one of the yekkow engines out of a 64 Power wagon - Keep an eye out for the real yellow engines - They have the shot peened and cold stragihtned Crank.

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
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Old Mopars don't leak oil. They mark their territory.

:mrgreen:
Sorry, but I'm gonna HAVE to use that... :lol:

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I also feel the need to use that 440 Magnum

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
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Old Mopars don't leak oil. They mark their territory.

:mrgreen:
Sorry, but I'm gonna HAVE to use that... :lol:

VM
Feel free, I stole it myself anyway :lol:

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I actually Have one of the yekkow engines out of a 64 Power wagon - Keep an eye out for the real yellow engines - They have the shot peened and cold stragihtned Crank.

Greg
How about a marine/industrial Slant?

Shot peened crank, loose bottom end with high flow oil pump, forged slugs, copper coated rods and glyptal coated block interior. Not to mention stellite valves, rotacaps, and factory double roller timing chain. :wink:

Dont know what color they were though...

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How about a marine/industrial Slant?
Shot peened crank, loose bottom end with high flow oil pump, forged slugs, copper coated rods and glyptal coated block interior. Not to mention stellite valves, rotacaps, and factory double roller timing chain.
That's not quite how it worked.

There was no "Marine/Industrial" slant-6. There were several different versions of the engine for marine service. And there were several different versions of the engine for industrial service. Depending on the exact type of service for which they were intended, they got different pieces and treatments.

The only slant-6 to get Stellite exhaust valves and Rotocaps was the 225-3, which was the heaviest-duty truck/bus engine, not an industrial power unit. The industrial engines all used ordinary passenger car type components. The 225-2 was where the shotpeened crank, double-roller timing chain and sprocket set and polyacrylic valve stem seals started (the 225-3 had these, too.)

Glyptal-coated block? Not according to any piece of factory literature I've seen on the matter, and I've seen a *LOT* of such material. Where'd this info come from? Glyptal block coating is primarily an aftermarket trick.

Forged pistons: Nope, never from the factory.

Copper-coated rods? Think you're thinking of the bronze external water pump that was used in the marine versions. There were no such rods.

"Loose bottom end" you're making up.

"High flow oil pump" was really a high-volume oil pump.


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Forged pistons: Nope, never from the factory.


Correct, but there was a low compression piston. I don't know the application. It was listed in a aftermarket engine parts catalog, with reference to a Chrysler part number. Had less compression distance.

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 Post subject: Re: Hey Super6!!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:49 pm 
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Heh...

Old Mopars don't leak oil. They mark their territory.

:mrgreen:[/quote]

That's the old Harley Davidson saying. Which makes me remember...When Ford introduced the F150 Harley Davidson edition, one of the modifications was they'd loosen the oil pan bolts so it'd leak oil everywhere, just like the bike. True story.


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