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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:57 am 
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Me too! 8)

Please send drop-in adjustable rocker arms :lol: :bow: :P

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I will be most happy to test all new parts in a systematic way and provide feedback.
And I will do a second test and study to make sure that Lou does his right! :lol: :lol:

It's not like he is a professor or somthin!! :lol: :lol:

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70 pounds of aluminum is a lot. Some hobby foundries can handle half that much metal, which would permit doing a cylinder head at home, if you have some assistants. I have never seen anything as complex an an OHV head attempted in a home shop. Some have cast water pumps, a few have cast cylinder heads for flathead motors in home foundry shops. Fifty years ago there were many small family owned foundries. Its good to see that you have the equipment to keep this old art alive in your community.

I'd like to build a furnace and some casting boxes and basic equipment for green sand casting, but I never get around to it, always thinking that I need more metal working tools than my old lathe.


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Rick, I think there are going to be plenty of opportunities for many on here to try out new parts. :P

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Maybe I'm nuts, but here's what I was thinking about a water heated carb spacer for cold climate and headers:

Imagine leaving the solid enclosed "wall" perimeter of this spacer full size rather than "clover leaf" around the bolt bosses and having a perimeter water passage inside. Two NPT hose barb fittings (in and out) provide connection points from heater or pump bypass hose, should keep things toasty (too toasty?). The center could be 4 hole or open. Could this work and is there a market for this?

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There might be a market for this type of spacer. Some Fords had water heated carb spacers from the factory, especially on inlines, so its not out of the question to make something similar if interest is there for it.

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Imagine leaving the solid enclosed "wall" perimeter of this spacer full size rather than "clover leaf" around the bolt bosses and having a perimeter water passage inside. Two NPT hose barb fittings (in and out) provide connection points from heater or pump bypass hose, should keep things toasty (too toasty?). The center could be 4 hole or open. Could this work and is there a market for this?
This has already been done, my grandfather used one on his 383-4V, I think I still have it on my shelf...2" tall 4 hole, 3/8" npt in and out. I think they still offer these if you look through the spacers on the summit site.

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Would definitly like to see the carburator heat shield created. :)

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I guess we need to start a poll as to the products that need to be developed in order of their demand. I have seen 3 or 4 times already that a 2 pc timing cover be made, so i'll start the list off with that.

1) 2 pc timing cover
2) Intake manifolds with injection bosses on them(1,2 and maybe 4 bbl)
3) Thermostat housing
4) Carb shield and/or heated spacer

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I would say a dedicated EFI manifold that uses a particular throttle body and IAC, with injector bosses and rail/mounts would be a good idea. There are other manifolds out there already with EFI bosses and for 4bbl or 2bbl (Aussiespeed, Clifford).

I am all for the timing cover.

I think other companies make heated carb spacers?

One option for the tstat housing is the 80s-up SB Mopar straight out housing, which is available new anywhere. I have a bunch of the stock ones laying around.

I will *gulp* vote for an aluminum head... down the line a little when you are settled with production/prototyping. I can line up a string of buyers, as I did once before... :oops: :shock: :roll: :twisted:

Looking forward to discussing at the banquet!

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I wish I was closer and more able-bodied, as I would love to be involved in the cad/cam part or R&D end to help you with this stuff (on my own dime). I used to enjoy that stuff many years ago.


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The timing cover and thermostat housing interest me most.

I've encountered some really low-quality, Chinese-made thermostat housings.

Many years ago, Clifford used to make 2-piece timing covers for some other straight sixes, but never got around making one for the Slant.

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Another option instead of an entire EFI intake manifold would be partial runners that would bolt between the head and the intake and had the injector bosses in the top. This would require a non-stock exhaust manifold, but if you are running EFI you don;t want the carb base heat anyway. Alignment would be tricky, but a small lip on either side that would slip inside the ports in the head and the intake would solve that issue. Combine these with an adapter to mount a throttle body on a stock intake and you might have a good salable package: 6 runner inserts and one TB adapter.

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I'm all for a good EFI intake and by good I mean one that follows design principles Toyota used on the 2JZ-GE engine. I designed a split-plenum sheet metal EFI intake manifold myself, but was going to use 2 throttle bodies rather than the Y used by Toyota. Hell, just make the lower manifold for the slant and use the Toyota upper.

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I would also like to see an alloy timing cover. Make sure it has an adjustable cam stop please. :D

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I'm all for a good EFI intake and by good I mean one that follows design principles Toyota used on the 2JZ-GE engine. I designed a split-plenum sheet metal EFI intake manifold myself, but was going to use 2 throttle bodies rather than the Y used by Toyota. Hell, just make the lower manifold for the slant and use the Toyota upper.

I would also like to see an alloy timing cover. Make sure it has an adjustable cam stop please. :D

I like that idea. My only concern is hood clearance in most passenger cars. The lower intake would have to angle down from the head to have clearance for the upper.

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