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Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  hmm, GM

I think I was looking on Summiit at centers and "GM style" universal ones came up or something. Some where push on or snap on and cover the lug nuts, so that's what I meant, sorry.
brian

Author:  Wesola78 [ Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:02 pm ]
Post subject: 

I've had Mopar cop car wheels on my Volare since the mid 1990s. Sometimes I've had the dog dish hubcaps on 'em, but not at the moment.

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  cop car wheels

I'll post of pic of mine when they're mounted. I have to get the rear axles and then I have a lot of conversion to do. Front disk conversion, rear axle swap, power master cylinder, then I can mount my cop car wheels.

brian

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  tires mounted

These are 215 60R/15's. I painted the centers with the same paint as I used on the rims (though it doesn't look like it on the second one due to the beauty ring reflecting so brightly around the center).

http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... d.jpg.html

http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... n.jpg.html

brian

Author:  Reed [ Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:44 pm ]
Post subject: 

Nice!

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  as promised...

I said I'd post the results, here are pics of my brake upgrades and wheels mounted. I think I'll lower the front end a bit, but it looks pretty decent "as is."

Rear drums: now 10 x 2.5" http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... 0.jpg.html

Front discs: mopar factory style http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... d.jpg.html

Mounted wheels: http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... l.jpg.html

I installed a proportioning valve and new master/booster. It's amazing the ride difference with 15" tires and actually having brakes that stop the car like a modern vehicle should...

These are 215/60R 15's all the way around on 15" x 7" cop car wheels dressed like Rallye's (see above posts).

b

Author:  Reed [ Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:30 pm ]
Post subject: 

Looking really good!

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  hmm.....

come to think of it, I forgot to change the speedo gear; I don't know how fast I'm driving...

I have the correct one, its on my to do list..5 minute job.

brian

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  hmmm.....

So, I just installed these tires/wheels/brakes and got the car aligned.

I parked it at work today, and when I came out to go home, I noticed that the front tires had vastly different distances from the front of the tire to the edge of the fender. Specifically, the passenger tire was about 2.5" from the fender lip and the driver side tire was about 1/2" away. I was thinking the caster was set way forward on the driver side and "normal" on the passenger side, i.e. the passenger side tire was more centered in the wheel well, at least it looked that way.

When I got home, I parked my Dart in my driveway, backed it in as usual, so it is parked downhill. Just out of curiosity, I checked that spacing again. Now, the gap is smaller on the passenger side than on the driver side. See pics:

driver side gap: http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... q.jpg.html

Passenger side gap: http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... a.jpg.html

What gives? I'm sure all my bolts, tie rods, strut rods, ball joints, etc. are tight. Does the mechanism have that much play in it? Maybe this is normal, I just didn't realize there was that much play. Both times the tires are pointed straight ahead. At work, the car was oriented slightly uphill, now it is pointed downhill.

Any suspension gurus see a problem?

Brian

Author:  sandy in BC [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:07 am ]
Post subject: 

Did they do a 4 wheel alignment?

Have you checked wheelbase from side to side?

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  sandy...

good questions, I'll find out. I didn't check wheelbase measurements. I took it to the shop today to have them readjust the rear drums; I asked them to check the frontend as well. When I dropped it off, on level ground, the distances were pretty close to those in the pics when it was aimed downhill, i.e. pretty similar.

Also, take what I said with a grain of salt, perhaps it was an optical illusion, it was dark outside.

As a lawyer I can tell you that eye witness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence....

I'll investigate further and report back.

brian

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  passenger wheel further back

...I went back to the alignment shop, they couldn't get the caster correct on the passenger wheel, it is about 0.5" further back than the driver side according to them.

I crawled under there, measured everything, checked the T-bars, K-frame, LCA's, pins, struts, etc, etc. I can't see any difference in measurements, they are very close to the same. The car doesn't pull to one side on straights, handles well from what I can tell. The difference is only discernible when measuring from the front fender lip to the front of the tires. Also, depending on if I'm facing uphill, downhill or on flats, the passenger tire may be closer, the same or further away from the fender than the driver side. I can't seem to find any play in the tires and the strut rods are showing the same amount of threads on both sides, measurements the same, LCA pins are fully in bushings, torsion bars are in place, retainer snap rings in place, etc.

I did some reading on the web, apparently this is a common problem with the 67 dart. Every instance I came across was with the passenger tire, never the driver side. There was even a conversation about people intentionally making one side further forward than the other for racing purposes (aligning with the starting sensor at the track) but that seemed silly to me.

Anyway, I can't find anything wrong and it seems to handle well.

Brian

Author:  '67 Dart 270 [ Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  final pics

Here are the wheels/tires on my '67 dart. I finally had some time to clean the blue stuff off the tires. These wheels are growing on me...

http://s785.photobucket.com/user/67dart ... k.jpg.html

Brian

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