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Author:  sandy in BC [ Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:03 pm ]
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I made in reference to triangulated four links with over a dozen factual comments
I must have missed that. Could you list the top 10 for me?

Author:  Dart270 [ Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:35 am ]
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The only thing that matters in science is that you can test things and competently present evidence from such tests in words (plots, equations, diagrams...) that some reasonable scope of an audience can understand.

Back-back testing of different suspensions on the same car with timed laps under the same conditions would be scientific. Very hard to achieve this with cars, but it can be done in some instances.

Lou

Author:  jcc [ Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:48 pm ]
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I made in reference to triangulated four links with over a dozen factual comments
I must have missed that. Could you list the top 10 for me?
Sorry you missed that, might want to get your Monitor looked at and see where the blank is being formed.

Here's a repeat of one of my replies:


"slantzilla wrote:
Fox body Mustang is the single most popular car body on the dragstrip now because they are cheap and the stock suspension works just fine. Why do you think so many Chevy guys buy them and put Chevy motors in them?


Popular and well designed are two different things. If the OP wants a Fox mustang rear suspension, then he should go buy one, they are cheap and everywhere. But I suggest he not do his homework and see how the rear suspension is frowned upon with all its design shortcomings. I know little about mud rods, I thought the Op was looking for a "handling" rear, not a drag rear. I have no idea how installing a Chevy motor into a Fox Body pertains here.

A 4 link triangulated rear by design must go into "bind" on roll, a common occurrence with a car used in handling conditions. The bind is mitigated by the use of "compliant" bushings or light stamped sheet metal control arms. Compliant is the counter of "control". Control in handling is a benefit, In a drag situation, roll is not of primary concern, and why this linkage can be made to work at the drags.

PS there is huge difference between a 4 link, and a triangulated 4 link, I hope we are all on the same page."

I'll break it down for you with numbers:

#1. Popular and well designed are two different things.

#2 If the OP wants a Fox mustang rear suspension, then he should go buy one

#3 they are cheap

#4 and everywhere.

#5 I suggest he not do his homework

#6 to see how the rear suspension is frowned upon

#7 with all its design shortcomings

#8 I know little about mud rods

#9 I thought the Op was looking for a "handling" rear

#10 .. not a drag rear.

#11 I have no idea how installing a Chevy motor into a Fox Body pertains here.

#12 A 4 link triangulated rear by design must go into "bind" on roll,

#13 a common occurrence with a car used in handling conditions

#14 The bind is mitigated by the use of "compliant" bushings

#15 or light stamped sheet metal control arms.

#16 Compliant is the counter of "control".

#17 Control in handling is a benefit

#18 In a drag situation, roll is not of primary concern,

#19 why this linkage can be made to work at the drags.

#20 there is huge difference between a 4 link, and a triangulated 4 link

#21 I hope we are all on the same page.

Author:  sandy in BC [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:07 am ]
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#21 I hope we are all on the same page.
Not a factual comment ......yer not even on the same planet.

Author:  jcc [ Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:25 pm ]
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#21 I hope we are all on the same page.
Not a factual comment ......yer not even on the same planet.
I do agree with your second point, and any hope is so pointless anyway on this thread it appears. Nice technical comeback.

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