Slant Six Forum :: ARP Rod Bolt Clearancing

I believe LAs have same dimension and same rod bolts, but I have not checked. I have a partial set for a 340 that came from Seymour that I'll hold against a Slant 6 bolt, but I think they are identical.

It looks like I have 1 or maybe 2 sets of ARP 6001 "Slant 6" (not) bolts that I bought from Summit 2-4 yrs ago. My plan is to see if they will take them back and refund me so I can buy the correct bolts (an LA engine set).

Again, ugh...

Lou

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Not a current thread, but I just checked a stock 318 rod bolt against a forged crank stock slant six rod bolt, and I cannot see any difference. I would think the ARP bolts for a 318 should work for the slant.

Good Show Charrile, Probably also the 340/360 Bolts too?

I would *think* all of the LA Bolts are the same?

Greg

Acording to the arp parts on summits website the LA engine use part number 144-6001
the forged slant six uses 142-6001
The 2.2 4cyl uses 141-6001
The first 3 digits of the part number designate the number of bolts in the package.
141-6001 is 8 pieces
142-6001 is 12 pieces
144-6001 is for 16 pieces
So there is no difference in the bolts
I wonder if they are haveing a problem with the others. I don't think so, as only the slant six part number is not available at this time

Author:	Badvert65 [ Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:09 am ]
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Are the rod journals the same size on the different LA engines? That may make a difference on the rod bolt size (length).

Author:	Dart270 [ Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:41 am ]
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I believe LAs have same dimension and same rod bolts, but I have not checked. I have a partial set for a 340 that came from Seymour that I'll hold against a Slant 6 bolt, but I think they are identical. It looks like I have 1 or maybe 2 sets of ARP 6001 "Slant 6" (not) bolts that I bought from Summit 2-4 yrs ago. My plan is to see if they will take them back and refund me so I can buy the correct bolts (an LA engine set). Again, ugh... Lou

Author:	Killer6 [ Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:10 am ]
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Quote: I believe LAs have same dimension and same rod bolts, but I have not checked. I have a partial set for a 340 that came from Seymour that I'll hold against a Slant 6 bolt, but I think they are identical. It looks like I have 1 or maybe 2 sets of ARP 6001 "Slant 6" (not) bolts that I bought from Summit 2-4 yrs ago. My plan is to see if they will take them back and refund me so I can buy the correct bolts (an LA engine set). Again, ugh... Lou According to My 2003 ARP Catalog, the 142-6002 has the same head as the SB units, they are simply listed as "SL6". The 142-6001 are listed as "6-cylinder, 170-225c.i.d.", which have the different style head, the inclusion of 170- indicates they are for forged-crank rods....the listing may be the issue here?

Author:	Charrlie_S [ Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: ARP Rod Bolt Clearancing
Quote: Quote: Not a current thread, but I just checked a stock 318 rod bolt against a forged crank stock slant six rod bolt, and I cannot see any difference. I would think the ARP bolts for a 318 should work for the slant. Good Show Charrile, Probably also the 340/360 Bolts too? I would think all of the LA Bolts are the same? Greg As far as I know 318, 340, 360 bolts are the same.

Author:	Charrlie_S [ Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: ARP Rod Bolt Clearancing
Acording to the arp parts on summits website the LA engine use part number 144-6001 the forged slant six uses 142-6001 The 2.2 4cyl uses 141-6001 The first 3 digits of the part number designate the number of bolts in the package. 141-6001 is 8 pieces 142-6001 is 12 pieces 144-6001 is for 16 pieces So there is no difference in the bolts I wonder if they are haveing a problem with the others. I don't think so, as only the slant six part number is not available at this time

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Author:	Dart270 [ Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:35 pm ]
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Hmmm, that is a different twist and good to know. Thanks, folks. Maybe I will take my set(s) to the machine shop and see if they fit my 225 rods correctly. My shop can tell if they fit right or not. I will eyeball them too up against the 340 bolts I have here. Lou

Author:	Killer6 [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:08 am ]
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Quote: Acording to the arp parts on summits website the LA engine use part number 144-6001 the forged slant six uses 142-6001 The 2.2 4cyl uses 141-6001 The first 3 digits of the part number designate the number of bolts in the package. 141-6001 is 8 pieces 142-6001 is 12 pieces 144-6001 is for 16 pieces So there is no difference in the bolts I wonder if they are haveing a problem with the others. I don't think so, as only the slant six part number is not available at this time The "-6001" is NOT the bolt, 135-6001 is a BBC 7/16" rod bolt set. There are at least (5) different bolt-head styles with a "-6001" bolt. If You are serious about Your bottom end, You're torquing them by stretch method, and using a common bolt in different applications means a different stretch dimension regardless of the bolts "original" app & spec. Again, I'm wondering if the listing is backwards, and are furnishing the wrong bolts for the actual app.

Author:	Dart270 [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:52 am ]
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OK, still murky... Wow, this is a bit silly for a place like ARP. Lou

Author:	Charrlie_S [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:04 am ]
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disregard what I said above. Here is ARB catalog. looks like the head is different. But I was making assumptions, before. Evidently incorrect ones. But I still think the OEM LA motor rods bolts are the same as a forged crank slant six. https://arpcatalog.com/46/

Author:	Greg Ondayko [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:53 am ]
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Ahh, The plot thickens! Hope to get this sorted out!

Author:	DadTruck [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:13 pm ]
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IIRC, Doug D was instrumental in setting up the ARP slant six catalogue. I believe that he found other critical fasteners that ARP already had in production and then had those fasteners packaged in quantities that worked with the slant six motors. Doc would be the resource that has answers to the questions raised in this thread.

Author:	volaredon [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:31 pm ]
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Yeah I remember reading something about that. He found existing products they had made for something else that was pretty much equivalent to what a /6 takes. I can't remember whether it was head bolts or main cap bolts but DD found that 455 olds bolts would work, and the other of those bolts was a common bolt for another popular application. So they didn't have to "make" something they didn't already have on the shelf

Author:	CNC-Dude [ Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:11 pm ]
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I remember it being stated that the rod bolts were actually V8 Pontiac rod bolts that fit the Slant rods....

Author:	Dart270 [ Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:44 am ]
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I can't understand why they wouldn't just use Mopar V8 bolts. Lou

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Author:	CNC-Dude [ Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:48 am ]
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