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 Post subject: HEader market.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:02 am 
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From everything I see, the header market for the slant six is in a sad state of affairs. It sure appears that an honest person, who would ship your items on time, answer questions when asked, and give you a quality product, could sell a pile of his product. I just don't understand I guess. :? Thankfully Doug is still putting out his duals.

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 Post subject: Re: HEader market.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:20 am 
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From everything I see, the header market for the slant six is in a sad state of affairs. It sure appears that an honest person, who would ship your items on time, answer questions when asked, and give you a quality product, could sell a pile of his product. I just don't understand I guess. :? Thankfully Doug is still putting out his duals.

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Now if we could just get Doug to fab and build headers for cheap. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I went to Mopars by Crane. What a waste of time! They need to do some serious work on that site.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:00 pm 
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I agree with Brian on this, I was also at the Mopar Nats - stopped in the Mopars by Crane tent from Bradenton Florida.

The welding on the indvidual runners looks nice and well done on the outside, but on the inside there is some serious port work to be done and re- welding to be done after porting by the buyer / user.

I had picked up the pieces and the exit pipe is not cut / contoured flush to the inside of the 3" log tube - some cutting and grinding and re-welding would again need to be done by the consumer to get these pieces to flow up to their potential.

As much as Clifford's customer service sucks they have at least in the past put out a quality header that in terms of craftsmanship and quality control would blow this thing out of the water.

And for about the same price.

It' a no - brainer as far as I am concerned as I have waited to chime in on this one - now I have some real evidence to put out there.


Also, no turbo model that I saw. I did see the one piece model and the 2 piece / dual exhaust model.

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Hay yall. Glad to see some of you saw the units. :o

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Hay yall. Glad to see some of you saw the units. :o
We also now see why you wouldn't give any proof of your claims. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hay yall. Glad to see some of you saw the units. :o
Did you read what the one person that saw your product actually wrote? Either your reading comprehension is as bad as your writing or you need to rethink your choice of words. Dang!

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Ok read back times were posted. As far as the dyno, the owner of car, and the shop full of people is proof of the increase. Not a huge gain but a gain never the less.This is what we were looking for. We are sure the DC will be better yet! The people that have received the powerpipe simply don't want to step in the middle of all the negativity here!! They are doing there own testing instead of flapping there flippers. Come see us at the track :lol: Have a good day Don

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 Post subject: Hope this helps
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 Post subject: Re: Hope this helps
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Drivel.
That's a polite way of saying "delusional bullshît." :roll:

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Nice response. :lol: You will see powepipe /'s at the track (from behind that is)!!! :wink: see yall later Don

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I agree With Brian on this, I was also at the Mopar Nats - Stopped in the Mopars By crane tent From Bradenton Florida.

I did See the One Pice Model and the 2 Piece / Dual Exhaust Model


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I also saw the same manifolds at the Nationals on the midway (but don't know if it was at the Mopars By Crane spot). After looking both sets over, I was not too impressed. If I were going to use a non-stock exhaust system, I'd use Dutra Duals or true headers.


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Mister Twister,

You might have better luck if you tried to respond to accusations with somewhat more factual comments instead of bravado. For example, you said you'd dyno tested it, but instead of posting a scan of a dyno graph, you posted this:
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Ok read back times were posted. As far as the dyno, the owner of car, and the shop full of people is proof of the increase. Not a huge gain but a gain never the less.This is what we were looking for. We are sure the DC will be better yet! The people that have received the powerpipe simply don't want to step in the middle of all the negativity here!! They are doing there own testing instead of flapping there flippers. Come see us at the track Laughing Have a good day Don
You could have at least posted the peak before and after numbers - that might help a bit. Of course, after we have two independent observers describe their impression of your product, you've got a long way to go to get your reputation back on track.

Another thing: Keep in mind that people here are likely to judge what your customer service is like by your forum manners. I too work for an aftermarket parts company, and I'm well aware that people may judge our products by the people who represent them.

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Nice response. :lol: You will see powepipe /'s at the track (from behind that is)!!! :wink: see yall later Don
Highly doubtful there dude. Your lack of proof and answers with any substance has pretty much sealed your fate here. Your product is snake oil and nothing more.

3 people here who have seen/held one and all think it is pretty much junk. You would do well to have all your "satisfied customers" come here and post some positive press for you. You're pretty deep in the hole now, nowhere to go but up.

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You're pretty deep in the hole now, nowhere to go but up.
Oh, now, let's not count him out just yet. So far, every time he's looked to have hit rock bottom, he's found a way to keep on diggin'! :lol:

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