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Author:  68barracuda [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:06 pm ]
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To anyone who 'may have bought 1 too many....' :wink:

You guys sure did get a bargain. If anyone would be interested in selling one and sending to Sydney. Please PM me to work something out. Thanks. :wink:
Digger sorry mate we Right hand drive guys can only use the internals - our pumps look different :(
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:05 am ]
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Wow... all I can say is: "Thanks Charrlie... I owe you a dinner"...
Guess I'll have to wait untill you make your next east coast slant race (Bristol 2008?). Actually, I just passed on what I read on the EVBC mail list.
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I just received my order of pumps... what a killer deal!
Picked-up 3 big boxes of oil pumps from my local Pep Boys... I was shocked to see that the warehouse used UPS to ship over 100 lbs of oil pumps, in 3 seperate boxes, to my local store. The shipping had to have cost more then what I paid for the pumps. ($2.40 each) :shock: :?
Mine came in 5 or 6 boxes, also UPS. 20 pumps ordered and one of the shelf at the store.
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Looking at the boxes, some of these pumps have been sitting around for a long time. This is a good example of all the "re-boxing" that gets done in the parts business these days, the pumps in my order came in Seal Power, Melling and Dynagear boxes and the pumps are both Melling and Dynagear produced.
Mine are Sealed Power, Melling, and Clevite with Melling part stickers over the lable. Also one missboxed pump for a Ford 351 Cleveland/351 modified V-8

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Author:  AnotherSix [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:17 pm ]
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I looked at the two pumps I got this weekend. One of them has a chipped gear. It really looks like a rather brittle cast gear. It is easy to see how maybe the older OE pumps might have been better material.

I have a NOS 6 hole aluminum pump and the gear just looks different, more like steel than cast iron. I believe this is a late 60s manufacture.

I also have a NOS 5 hole aluminum pump that came out of the factory sealed bag with a chewed gear. It is some sort of machine damage, not shipping damage.

Maybe there were (are) even a few more issues that have helped with the failures?

At least now one can have a pile to choose from!
Author:  Volare4life [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:16 pm ]
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ha ha man I definitly had a brain fart on that one slantsixdan, do they make steel/bronze dizzy gears ? i managed to snag a "ford style" star pump with the dimples on the cover, they guy couldn't believe the price either !!!

-Mike
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:10 pm ]
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What means a "Ford style" pump?

There used to be iron distributor pinions available — no more. There are bronze ones out of Australia ($$).
Author:  emsvitil [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:29 pm ]
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What means a "Ford style" pump?

http://www.slantsix.org/articles/oil-pu ... report.htm

4th paragraph from the bottom......
Author:  CARS [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:28 pm ]
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To anyone who 'may have bought 1 too many....' :wink:

You guys sure did get a bargain. If anyone would be interested in selling one and sending to Sydney. Please PM me to work something out. Thanks. :wink:
Digger sorry mate we Right hand drive guys can only use the internals - our pumps look different :(
I would love to have a right hand drive car BUT i would settle for a right hand drive oil pump! (I still don't like the up-side down filter)
Author:  Hudlow6678 [ Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:59 pm ]
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Looking at these oil pumps, I notice that there aren't any tubes coming out of the pump that go up inside the oil filter. Are these tubes not nessessary? Also, only 5 holes for mounting? My block has 6 holes and the gasket looks like it's set up for 6 but the pump only has 5? My brain is starting to hurt...
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turns out one of the oil passages is larger in the pump with the cast cover. Check it out.

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and obviously some other casting differences.

CE
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:21 pm ]
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Looking at these oil pumps, I notice that there aren't any tubes coming out of the pump that go up inside the oil filter. Are these tubes not nessessary?
see this post and the links from it.
Author:  68barracuda [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:52 am ]
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To anyone who 'may have bought 1 too many....' :wink:

You guys sure did get a bargain. If anyone would be interested in selling one and sending to Sydney. Please PM me to work something out. Thanks. :wink:
Digger sorry mate we Right hand drive guys can only use the internals - our pumps look different :(
I would love to have a right hand drive car BUT i would settle for a right hand drive oil pump! (I still don't like the up-side down filter)
I am organizing a shipment to Dan -

The BAD thing with these setups is the filter on top of the tappet cover - the good thing is that it is easy to relocate - I my Case to the front next to my oil cooler in a nice easy to access and logical no mess possition
Author:  Doc [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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The right hand drive SL6 pumps are pretty cool if you need to run oil lines off to a remote filter / oil cooler.

I do not like the factory 'elbow fittings' most come with because they are restrictive. Come off the pump with straight fittings or do some "porting work" on the factory ones to reduce the restriction.

Here are some photos of a "no filter" SL6 oil pump.
DD

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Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:13 pm ]
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The BAD thing with these setups is the filter on top of the tappet cover
That's RSA-only. The Australians used various other locations:

RV1 (1961 Valiants sold as 1962 models down there): Replaceable-element oil filter cannister mounted to RH inner fender more or less right above the oil pump

SV1 (1962): Replaceable-element oil filter cannister mounted to upper water pump bolts (where the A/C compressor mounts if a slant-6 is so equipped)

AP5-VF (1963-1970): Spin-on oil filter mounted on filter pad bolted to manifold side of block, just above oil pan rail, just behind water pump scroll housing, with form-bent hardlines running around the front and rear of the engine.

Any of these makes for much easier, less-messy oil filter changes than either the USA or RSA setups.
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the front next to my oil cooler in a nice easy to access and logical no mess possition
Pics?
Author:  userhelp [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:18 pm ]
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oil pumps with powder metal drive gears are pure junk; the gears slip on shaft,they have a VERY lame knurl like spine under them; China? You can't press on powder metal gears. JUNK! Guess how i know.. Gear spins free, zero oilpressure
Author:  NCDemon1971 [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:53 pm ]
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Has anyone seen a slant six with an oil pump that has an aluminum housing?? I have one from my 198 but dont ever recall seeing another one ???
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:10 pm ]
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All the original-equipment pumps use aluminum housings.
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