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Author:  Rug_Trucker [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:00 pm ]
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The HHO will help get a more complete burn
I do not believe that is correct. There's a lot of mythology and popular handwaving about HHO systems, but it seems like every properly rigorous/scientific test I've seen shows zero benefit.
I would love to read said tests. All I know is a friend of 30+ years running one on his Hotshot '06 CTD grossing 22K lbs. He picked up 2.5mpg. No programmer bone stock. Told me once he got up to speed he feather way back on the pedal. Down fall was every 125-150mi. he had to refill the bottle with water. The system was very primitive. Rheostat mounted on the console to adjust the amperage. It was trial and error.

That was 2007-08.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:06 pm ]
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I would love to read said tests.
Do a search; the topic has come up and been discussed at great length on here before.
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All I know is a friend of 30+ years running one
And sharing his anecdotes. Right.
Author:  Sam Powell [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:03 am ]
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it is my understanding that the Corvette's pop up headlights were eliminated in 1997 to make the cars marketable in Europe.
Pop-up headlamps are not prohibited by European/international regulations. They're costly to build and aerodynamically lousy when popped up, which is why they are decreasingly popular.
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European regs had an effect non-the-less
True -- now that Europe mandated daytime running lights on all new cars starting Feb '11, with a regulation that is a good bit more stringent than the Canadian/US reg (American regs allow high glare and you can use high beams, low beams, turn signals, etc. as the DRLs; European regs don't allow headlamps or turn signals or fog lamps as DRLs and don't allow glaring intensity levels) we're seeing more European-type DRLs in North America.
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I do not know if Japan is concerned about this or not.
Japan has been gradually replacing their own auto regs with the UN "European" regs for the last dozen years or so.
My "understanding" came from my son-in-law who is Hungarian. He was probably mis-informed, but was under the impression that anything that stuck up was illegal there.

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Author:  Rug_Trucker [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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So Danny you have no experience yet you spout out your facts and opinons on HHO sytems.

It's the same thing we did in the 70's with natural gas injected into our ALCO and Cooper Bessmer stationary diesels. The NG was like a spark plug we got a more complete burn more HP, torque, and RPM.

Until you have put your hands on a working system take a chill pill. I have had my hands on one. Saw how it smoothed out the idle, and smelled the much cleaner exhaust. I have some pics of it I took in my driveway on his rig.

What choo got?
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:27 pm ]
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So Danny you have no experience yet you spout out your facts and opinons on HHO sytems.
Sneering at my name…? Seriously? C'mon, we're all grownups here. Fact is, we humans are pretty lousy at discerning the difference between what we think we're seeing and what we're actually seeing. That's why objective data and not subjective impressions are the only evidence that counts when assessing the actual, real effect of doing anything to anything with anything.

Everyone's got beliefs; beliefs are fine. They're just not necessarily factual.
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