WOOHOO... Way to go JC... Hope you get the needed R&R, And that Ms Van Haul is feeling her oats as well. When its time to awaken her, she will respond.

Hope this finds YOU well.

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Hey All,
Saturday Noon Update:

Got the Distilled Water in the Radiator. No leaks!

Put a quart of ATF in the Transmission.

Started to check the Oil Level in the Engine, and discovered that the Dip Stick Tube had not been reinstalled. It had gotten cleaned and painted while awaiting the arrival of the Brass Nuts. So got it from where it had been painted (the Greenhouse), and installed it. Checked the Oil. It was right at the Full mark on the Dip Stick.

Gave Lorrie a shot of Staring Fluid, and her mighty 225 Slant Six started right up. It ran somewhat roughly until it was warmed up to operating temperature. Then it smoothed out some, but not completely. It idles at about 450 RPM.

Then it was time to check the Transmission.

Put the Shift Lever into Neutral, then to Reverse, then to Neutral, then to Drive, then to Neutral, and checked the Transmission Fluid Level. There was 1/4" of ATF on the end of the Dip Stick.

Shut Lorrie off and added another quart of ATF.

Restarted the Engine.

It was a little harder to start this time, but finally caught.

Went through the Neutral, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Neutral routine again, and this time the ATF level was about 1/4" below the Full Mark on the Dip Stick.

Shut the Engine down, and added 1/4th of a quart of ATF.

Tried to restart the Engine, but it wouldn't catch on.

It is flooded.

AND there is a small amount of gasoline coming out of the Vent Hole on the top of the Carburetor! It could be that the Fuel Pump is overpowering the Float Valve. Lorrie MAY need a Fuel Pressure Regulator.

Lorrie is now sitting, with the Throttle wide open to let the gasoline evaporate out the Intake Manifold. It should take about an hour, so will try to restart the Engine in about sixty minutes.

Also, the Intake/Exhaust Manifold Gasket works. There are no leaks anywhere.

The next time that Lorrie Starts, am going to let her run for a while with the Rear Wheels Turning to see if that will maybe loosen up her 3rd gear.

So once again, we are waiting. We seem to do more waiting than anything else.

Will keep you all updated.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Mr. OF,
Well, all is still not completely well (see the Noon Update). But at least progress is being made. It an hour-to-hour, ever-changing, minute-to-minute, custom-made, second-to-second process. Step-by-step, little-by-ittle.
Will be fine. It's by over-doing a little that endurance is built up.
She isn't quite right, but then again the NEW Bendix Stromberg Carburetor isn't totally and properly adjusted yet.


She started right up when cold, but then wouldn't start after she was warmed up. Don't understand that!

BUT, at least the NEW Intake/Exhaust Manifolds Gasket works like a champ. No leaks anywhere.

As mentioned previously, Lorrie MAY need a Fuel Pressure Regulator.

Whaddaya think?

Hope this finds YOU well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Much too slowly. You're shooting for 700-750.
No fuel pressure regulator is necessary or desirable.

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Hey All,
Saturday Afternoon Update:

Had Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine Running for an hour today. It ran somewhat rough to start with, but the longer it ran, the smoother it got. Could turn it off and then hit the Start Button, and it would start right back up!

Ran the Transmission in Drive for about twenty minutes. Then ran it in Reverse for ten minutes. Then let it run in Park and Neutral for a while. After doing this a number of time, all of a sudden, the Transmission started shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear. Ran the Speedometer up to 60 mph a few times. It was really smooth at that speed.

Just sitting still, Lorrie's Temperature Gauge never got above 180 degrees. The Oil Pressure Gauge showed 60 PSI at Idle in Drive. The Ammeter showed about 30 Amps to start with, but when Lorrie's Engine was shut down, the Ammeter was registering less then 10 Amps.

Am going to be getting some more fresh Gasoline and some more Sea Foam, and maybe some Marvel Mystery Oil to go into the Gas Tank with the NEW Gasoline. There is no smoke coming from the Exhaust Pipe. The NEW Manifold Gasket is working perfectly.

Am going to check the lubricant Level in the Differential.

There is one little problem that may not even be a problem, but it seems that when the Shift Lever is moved from Park to Reverse, the Transmission seems to "slam" into gear. It does the same when going from Park through Neutral to Drive. It has done that before though. Is there a way to keep that from happening? Should that even be a concern?

Anyway, think Lorrie is going to be alright.

Hope you all are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Daniel,
When Lorrie's Transmission was put into Drive, Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six would slow down and it actually died a couple of times. So the Idle Speed Adjustment Screw was turned in till that stopped. She now idles at about 700 RPM in Neutral.
Alright.

Daniel, Lorrie sounds REALLY good. She is doing REALLY well.

The A727 Torqueflite Transmission is much smoother after today's running. AND it is NOW shifting into 3rd gear.

All the old girl needed was to be run for a while.

Am going to be doing that for a couple more days to get the old Gasoline residue all diluted with NEW Gasoline, and then it will be time to take her down off the Jack Stands for a test drive.

Revved the Engine up a number of times to where the rear wheels were turning at 65 mph. It was strong, and sounded GREAT!

The NEW Bendix Stromberg Carburetor works just fine. You done good!

Have some little details to figure out, such as: How to get the Tachometer to working; How to get the Gas Gauge to working; and And during all the working with the Manifolds, Gasket, and Brass Nuts, the Wire to the Horns got disconnected when the Spade Connection on the Horn broke off. That is going to have to be fixed.
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Also need to do a final bleeding of the Brakes and a Brake Adjustment.

Once all that is done, then will be putting the Removable Floor, the Engine Cabinetry back into place, the Front Bumper back on, install the Windshield Wiper Blades, and Lorrie will be ready to be Insured, Licensed, and Inspected.

So everything seems to be going sumptuously. Am actually seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

Anyway, thanks for the response.

Hope you are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Sounds like great progress!

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Hey All,
"Anything that CAN go wrong WILL go wrong." (Murphy's First Law).

Fixed the Electrical Problem with the Horns (they now work)

Fixed the Electrical Problem with the Fuel Gauge (still doesn't work, but never has). Will get into that later when all the other stuff has been taken care of.

Found that the Tachometer Wire WAS indeed connected to the "-" Terminal of the Ignition Coil. The Tachometer has been working since the big Mud Dauber Wasp's Nest was found on the back of it when the rewiring of Lorrie was undertaken. Will get into that later when all the other stuff has been taken care of.

So now to the present problem: Tried to Start Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine. It was running on Saturday. It was running yesterday. It wouldn't start this afternoon. It would turn over, but wouldn't fire.

Then it started firing, but only once every revolution, and that one fire would "chuff" back through the Carburetor.

Amateur that I am, am going to take a wild guess and say that this would be an indication that an Intake Valve is stuck open due to the OLD Gasolene Residue (varnish) that was picked up by the NEW Gasoline that was put into Lorrie's Fuel Tank.

But before removing the Valve Cover to see if one Valve is stuck open, would like to have an educated opinion about this.

This may be the source of the rough running at startup that never completely goes away even when the Engine is at operating temperature.

Daniel said that in the case of that happening, that there is a stuff that can be put past the Valve Guides that will loosen the Valve up, but I can't remember where he said that. It might have been in an E-Mail.

Anyway, all opinions are appreciated.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
While awaiting responses to the previous post, Lorrie's Valve Cover was removed.

The problem is magnitudes worse than first suspected.

There are at least four completely bent Push Rods. Two were able to be removed. Two more are caught between the Lifters and Rocker Arms so tight that they can't be spun, and are probably bent.

As was previously mentioned, this is most likely the result of the OLD Gasoline Residue sticking the Valves in the Valve guides.

Have loosened the Bolts holding the Rocker Arm Shaft to the Cylinder Head. Am going to remove it to get the rest of the Push Rods out of the Engine.

Is this going to have ramification beyond the Push Rods? Maybe it wiped out the Cam? Maybe it wiped out the Lifters? Will have to remove the Head and have the Valves removed and maybe replaced?

Also am going to remove the Gas Tank and clean it out. Should have done THAT in the first place. Live and learn.

Comments?

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Have gotten the Rocker Arm Shaft removed and the Bolts organized so that they will go back into the same holes.

Got the Push Rod removed and organized so that it can be determined which Valve they were activating.

The Bent Push Rods are the Number 3 Cylinder's Intake, Number 4 Cylinder's Intake, and Number 5 Cylinder's Intake Valves.

Am betting that it was the varnish residue from the Old Gasoline.

So NOW what?

Am going to take the Gas Tank down, drain it, clean it out and then reinstall it. Should have done that in the first place.

Am going to take the Intake/Exhaust Manifolds off again.

Am going to take the Thermostat Housing off.

Am going to remove the Spark Plug Wires and Barrels.

Am going to remove the Spark Plugs.

Am going to remove the Cylinder Head.

Am going to take the Cylinder Head to Ben Nettles Machine Shop to have the Valves removed.

Am going to get new Push Rods.

Am going to get a NEW Cylinder Head Gasket.

Am going to get a NEW Manifolds Gasket.

Already have a NEW Thermostat Housing Gasket.

Have the Valves removed and the Cylinder Head fixed.

Then have to reassemble everything.

We will then be back to square one with NEW Gasoline in a clean Gas Tank.

Am just hoping that nothing else has been toasted (Lifters, Cam, and whatever else).

Seems to me that once the Push Rod is bent, it doesn't mess up the Cam. And the other Push Rods are not on Stuck Valves. So unless the Cam got messed up bending the Push Rods, it seems to me that it would be alright.

The Lifters are solid Lifters so they probably didn't get damaged. We'll just have to see when the time comes.

Lorrie didn't need this, but, we'll do whatever is necessary to get Lorrie back on the road again. It's going to take more time and more money, that all.

Anyway, hope you all are well.

JC

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Or...
Spray all the valve stems with penetrating oil & let it soak-in.
(Do this a few times - tap on each valve to see if it is "free" and returning to it's seat after tapping)

Re-install pushrods and rocker arm assembly. (replace any bent push rods)

Run the engine off of fresh gas with a little pre-mix in the fuel. (2 stroke engine - fuel additive oil, added to the gas)

See if that frees-up the stuck valve guides.
DD

Oh no... for heaven's sake.... do as doc suggested first. Thats a lot of work to go thru if its unnecessary. Well not for certain that old gas could be the root of the troubles, but by all means do the tank cleaning. For a fuel additive berrymans makes a decent one, but using a 8 oz bottle of 2 stroke oil in say 5 gals of gas definitely wont hurt the situation. Sorry for your problems, but your luck sounds like mine, with Murphy hanging around all the time... More A-1 is needed it seems...

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Hey Doc,
Alright. I have some stuff called AeroKroil. Have a bunch of other penetrating oils too.

But Daniel mentioned this to me some time ago when I expressed some trepidations about the OLD Gasoline Residue.

At that time, he wrote:
Alright.
Have to ascertain if any of the other Push Rods are bent just slightly. The ones that are obviously bent are REALLY bent! I mean like an elongated "S" shaped.
Am going to take the Gas Tank down and clean it. Don't want to have this happen again.
It's worth a try.

Thanks Doc for the response. Will start doing this first thing in the morning. Have all week without anything else that needs doing.

Hope this finds YOU doing well.

JC

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Hey Mr. Of,
That was what I said when I saw all the bent Push Rods! Well, not exactly, but at least "Oh no... for heaven's sake..." can be written here without getting kicked off the forum!
Have been putting AeroKroil at the base of the Valve Stem and on the top, hoping that it will run down the Stem.
Yes it is, but this is all an educational process as well. I wouldn't learn nearly as much if everything went just swell.
With the Rocker Arms out of the way, have been tapping on the Valve Stem End gently with a Ball Peen Hammer, and the Number 4 Intake Valve doesn't have ANY rebound.

It was tapped on and it went down about 1/4" and stayed there.

BUT then about an hour later, went out to give it some more AeroKroil, and it was back up level with the Number 4 Exhaust Valve.

So whatever is sticking the Valves is gummy and not some kind of mechanical problem.

All the other Valves have a bounce to them except the Number 4 Intake. But the Number 1 Intake doesn't have the kind of bounce that all the Exhaust Valves and the other non-sticking Intake Valves have.
That's next on the agenda. Will do that while soaking the Valves in various kinds of stuff.
Will have to get all this stuff next Thursday when we (Ms. American 3.14159 and I) go to Livingston.
Murphy is making sure that I get a liberal education about Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine.
Yes, but this is like eating a whole twenty mule team! We're going to have to have a couple of dozen more bottles of the stuff.

Some time ago, I had to have a Liver biopsy, and to make sure that my blood would coagulate so that I wouldn't bleed inside, the Liver MDeities made me shoot up on the two days before the procedure with two syringes of vitamin K.

I still have those glass syringes.

Was wondering, would it hurt anything to use them to give Lorrie's Valves some Acetone, Lacquer Thinner, Xylol, etc.? Am sure that thinners would attack, soften, and maybe dissolve the OLD Gasoline Varnish Residue better than would Penetrating Oil.

If some of the stuff that Daniel recommended can be found, would use the syringes to apply it to the Valve Stems.

BTW, Daniel mentioned Rubber Boots on the Valves. Where are those Rubber Boots?

Anyway Mr. OF, thanks for the response and commiseration.

JC

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I can imagine, and those wouuldnt have been my first choice of words either but for writing purposes and maybe young uns I figured a 'clean' version was needed. I am not familiar with your product of choice.
Oops. And i can almost bet more than one were sticking slightly, but finally ran enough to free up.
I would then put most emphasis on those two.
No it wouldnt hurt anything no more than you are going to be able to apply.
They are hiding under (behind) the valve springs, and you need to use a SMALL pick tool to 'pull' GENTLY the lip away from valve to let lube/cleaner down to the guide where the sticking is taking place. And yes the syringes would work wonderfully for that. The "Boots" are called valve stem seals, but boots kind of lets beginners understand more readily. Hope the REST goes smoothly... Take care.

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