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people will rattle their keyboards over just for the halibut

it it is done to death, it is only because no one has picked up the baton and moved it forward,

The inline six people are the forgotten ones.

I can't recall an aftermarket head for the inline Chevy six, and there are millions of those motors. They do the "lump port" mod for the shared intake runners, weld cut up V8 heads, but nobody has produced a Chevy head, not that I am aware of. If it was to be done, I think they'd do it - a Vortec or LS type head on a 292 would be something. The inline six people are the forgotten ones. Only BMW and Cummins makes an inline six any more. Put a 2JZ in a Duster, it'll fit.

The Ford 6 guys have an aluminum head available that retails for around $1500. It is basically a copy of the Australian Ford 6 head. So I feel that would be the price point to aim for with any Slant 6 version.

Can somebody meet this price point?

We have CAD drawings, we probably have a mold, we now have a foundry, ran by an enthusiast, who is basically asking for it to be used for this purpose.

We just need somebody to pull it all together.

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I think the Classic Inlines Ford head is very reasonably priced at $1500. I don't see any reason why a Slant head can't be made for that or close to it since I can do every bit of the process in-house from scratch, so no outsourcing to drive costs up unnecessarily.

Ok, a new head might be out of the picture, but how about reproducing the old "good" Echlin caps and rotors?

Author:	DusterIdiot [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:02 pm ]
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Quote: people will rattle their keyboards over just for the halibut Aww...most guys are hard of herring, you're just being shellfish...be a good sport and put a sand dollar in the box for Jerry's Squids...you know some poor chub is going to get suckered, and need a sturgeon after they eel over from this post... This whole thread is giving me a Haddock...time to trade the Duster in for a Stingray, before I get crabby....

Author:	SlantSixDan [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:40 pm ]
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Quote: it it is done to death, it is only because no one has picked up the baton and moved it forward, If that were true, it would be because millionnaires with money to burn stubbornly tend not to be interested in slant-6 engines, or in projects that will never, ever come even a little bit close to breaking even. But it's not true. People have done a whole hell of a lot of work and research on an aluminum head for the slant-6. You might not have been aware.

Author:	SlantSixDan [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:45 pm ]
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Quote: The inline six people are the forgotten ones. It's not that we're forgotten, it's that statistically we don't exist. Not in the volumes needed to make the production of a new cylinder head feasible using currently-available technology. Perhaps 3D printing or another technique will evolve to the point that one-off parts of this nature can inexpensively be made on demand, but not today or tomorrow or next year.

Author:	slantzilla [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:15 pm ]
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I know of at least 3 people who have gone as far as making CAD drawings for an aluminum head. The big issue here is nobody but Howard Davis has had the means to follow through. Realistically, unless you are a very hardcore racer, an aluminum head is basically useless anyway. Need to take 35# out of your car? There's a lot cheaper places to do it than paying $3500 or more for an alloy head. Even Jenny Craig is cheaper.

Author:	Reed [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:26 pm ]
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Ok, a new head might be out of the picture, but how about reproducing the old "good" Echlin caps and rotors?

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Author:	CNC-Dude [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:28 pm ]
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Quote: I can't recall an aftermarket head for the inline Chevy six, and there are millions of those motors. They do the "lump port" mod for the shared intake runners, weld cut up V8 heads, but nobody has produced a Chevy head, not that I am aware of. If it was to be done, I think they'd do it - a Vortec or LS type head on a 292 would be something. The inline six people are the forgotten ones. Only BMW and Cummins makes an inline six any more. Put a 2JZ in a Duster, it'll fit. Tim, I have posted pics on here quite a few times before. I do manufacture an aluminum race head for the Chevy inline 6 and have patterns for the following, several intake manifolds, valve covers, 2 pc timing covers along with a 4 cylinder Chevy version of those same parts along with an aluminum race block pattern. I took the 6 cylinder head to the Slant 6 banquet a year ago or so to show those guys how easily I could modify my patterns to make a Slant 6 version. I guess people just aren't listening or don't care that someone in their midst has the financial resources and all the mechanical resources to do this, and is also willing too.

Author:	kesteb [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:57 pm ]
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The Ford 6 guys have an aluminum head available that retails for around $1500. It is basically a copy of the Australian Ford 6 head. So I feel that would be the price point to aim for with any Slant 6 version. Can somebody meet this price point? We have CAD drawings, we probably have a mold, we now have a foundry, ran by an enthusiast, who is basically asking for it to be used for this purpose. We just need somebody to pull it all together.

Author:	se7enine [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:58 pm ]
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The guys at Classic Inlines are making aluminum heads for their small six's and are still in the works for the big 240/300ci six's but at least they have someone actively working on it. If only.

Author:	CNC-Dude [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:13 pm ]
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Quote: The Ford 6 guys have an aluminum head available that retails for around $1500. It is basically a copy of the Australian Ford 6 head. So I feel that would be the price point to aim for with any Slant 6 version. Can somebody meet this price point? We have CAD drawings, we probably have a mold, we now have a foundry, ran by an enthusiast, who is basically asking for it to be used for this purpose. We just need somebody to pull it all together. I think the Classic Inlines Ford head is very reasonably priced at $1500. I don't see any reason why a Slant head can't be made for that or close to it since I can do every bit of the process in-house from scratch, so no outsourcing to drive costs up unnecessarily.

Author:	slantzilla [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:23 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: The Ford 6 guys have an aluminum head available that retails for around $1500. It is basically a copy of the Australian Ford 6 head. So I feel that would be the price point to aim for with any Slant 6 version. Can somebody meet this price point? We have CAD drawings, we probably have a mold, we now have a foundry, ran by an enthusiast, who is basically asking for it to be used for this purpose. We just need somebody to pull it all together. I think the Classic Inlines Ford head is very reasonably priced at $1500. I don't see any reason why a Slant head can't be made for that or close to it since I can do every bit of the process in-house from scratch, so no outsourcing to drive costs up unnecessarily. Wel then, why not just build the head and be done with it?

Author:	CNC-Dude [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:40 pm ]
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After showing the head in person at the Slant banquet and talking it up everytime the subject comes up on here, I just don't get that warm fuzzy feeling there is really any genuine interest in one or I would. I'm still going to have the equivalent of $30K plus in developing one in time and labor, machine fixturing and prototyping one, plus cussing from time to time. I still would like to at least see some enthusiasm. I know this topic has probably been beat to death for years on here, but I think I am the closest to being able to make it happen than any one else that has been approached about making one in the past.

Author:	Reed [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:50 pm ]
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My enthusiasm correlates to the thickness of my wallet. I would love to see a modern slant six head manufactured in any metal, and why not aluminum? The problem is the cost. I can still pay a shop less than $1500 to get a production cast iron head rebuilt with big valves and porting. If I had the money, I would love to purchase or fund a new slant head, as well as other slant six projects. But I, like I suspect many slant six owners do, lack the disposable funds for such a product. Now, with Super Six pieces starting to fetch big bucks and slant powered cars becoming rare and sort of more desirable, maybe the cost of getting a stock head rebuilt will eventually reach the point that it becomes economically feasible to just buy an aftermarket aluminum head. I don't think we are there yet though. I appreciate CNC-Dude's enthusiasm and I wish I had the money to spend on some cool custom products.

Author:	slantzilla [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:56 pm ]
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There are some things that have never changed with this topic: 1. You won't get 3 people to agree on what they want. 2. If it costs more than $500 people will bitch it's too much. 3. An iron head can be made to be better than 90% of the people on this board can use. 4. If you don't just go ahead and build it, it will never get done. 5. You have to build it because you want to. There will he no profit in it.

Author:	CNC-Dude [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:08 pm ]
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Yeah, you don't ever make a profit making car parts of this scale. I would be doing it just to help bring a new product to market and help some racers reach a higher rung on the ladder. Once a product like this does hit the market, it can also generate or stimulate interest in the Slant 6 by people that might not have been interested in the Slant otherwise.

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Author:	SlantSixDan [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:57 pm ]
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Quote: Ok, a new head might be out of the picture, but how about reproducing the old "good" Echlin caps and rotors? How come? There's enough new old stock to last essentially forever.