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| Author: | moparfreak [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | head porting |
ok i am thinking of getting my heads ported abd was told the best type would be a veloicity port job and am wondering what the diffrence is i'm planning on just a port job with no polish done to it and am wondering if i could use valves from any other engines like a 318 or 3.0, 3.9, 2.2, or 2.5have been told the slant is undersized in the valve department |
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:18 pm ] |
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For a mild SL6 engine just clean-up the ports and knock the sharp lip off the underside of the valve seat. There was a thread below about the SI oversize valves, they are a "drop-in" and would be a good choice. DD |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:15 am ] |
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doc, will you have some pix of one porting job? Thanks anyway... what you say is very clear but I'd love to actually see some... take care |
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:32 am ] |
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Opening-up the "port pocket" area just under the valve seat is the place where you will get the most gain for the least amount of work. There is a sharp edge where the valve seat machining stops and the "as cast" port walls start, this sharp edge needs to be removed. If you plan to use oversize valves, "rough-in" the new valve seat location first and then grind-out any extra metal to the inside of the new seat. Grind straight down from the inner seat edge, do not cut metal underneath the seat, that metal will be needed for later valve seat grinding and helps heat transfer. DD ![]() http://www.dutra.org/pictures/engine/pa ... ction1.jpg |
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| Author: | Slant6Ram [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | More porting advice |
Feel around on the short side for casting bumps and spikes. Seems like there is plenty of material to allow for blending there. It's a little tough to see and get at with the grinder, but a common spot to find casting imperfections on the heads I've seen. Removing the valve boss, or as much as possible has been suggested, but it's in the hardest place to reach. It's a pretty labor intensive job porting a head with just hand tools. I can see why a milling machine would work a good bit faster. Be sure to wear eye protection. I'm not the only one who's been to the hospital to have filings removed. All my porting work so far has been muted by the fact that my rings are shot. I can hardly wait to get a cam and a decent block with this head on it. |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:09 pm ] |
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Thanks for the pix. To Doc: I've been wandering tthru your images section on your website. I found lots of answers w/o asking (that's cool 1) where did you got the roller rocker arm. I NEED one... I may not be able to sleep till I get one of these babies 2) I've seen that you use threaded rods and washers/nuts on some head installation... may I ask why? is easier to get the head on working alone? there are any benefits from that setup? 3) did you custom filled the aluminium block as I'm guessin? 4) does steel gasket need retorque somewhere along the road? mine has 4kmiles plus on it... (this q obviously is for anybody that's willing to help) thanx |
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| Author: | moparfreak [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:16 pm ] |
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doc you killed that head my uncle told me about velocity porting a little and told me to ask i'm just wondering what the difference is from a normal port job i'm going to be sending it in for the porting and to be plained |
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| Author: | Doctor Dodge [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:37 pm ] |
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"Velocity porting" leaves the port pretty close to it's current size and just cleans-out imperfections and works on the port's shape. Sometimes metal is added into the port to speed-up the movement of the air/fuel mixture thru a low velocity section of the port. Good velocity helps low rpm performance and helps keep the fuel suspended in the mixture. "Race" porting opens-up the port size or cross section area to allow more mixture to flow through. This improves the high RPM ability of the engine but kills some of the low speed performance. For argentina-slantsixer: -As for roller rocker arms, the Cox Boys sell them. -Head studs allow for higher torque and better head gasket clamping force. -I have done a lot of interesting things to Alm. Block Slants, closing the top deck is one example. -You should check the torque on a steel shim gasket after the first 1000 miles or so, after that, it is set for "life". These really don't compress much after their first heat cycle. DD |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:11 pm ] |
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Thanks Doc As far as Cox bros are concerned I got in touch with'em to get a roller timing gear set, so I figure I can add some roller rockers in my order. I gotta say that you've done a lot of interesting work not only on alm blocks... I really admire your work and think that's very inspiring. About my head gasket... I think that I'm loosing compression... By the way, those li'l critters and animals are just great. (The yard weld art) |
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| Author: | moparfreak [ Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:28 pm ] |
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so in other words i would probably get a velocity port job done to my slant since i'm planning on doing a little towwing with it from time to time |
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