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| Author: | LASwinger70 [ Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Moog Problem Solver Bushings |
So I rebuilt my front end. Used Rubber LCA Bushing. Added larger Torsion Bars. Added LBP Disc Brakes from a 74. Everything should be great. But... I used normal bushings in uppers, not the problem solvers, I can visibly see my car has to much negative camber no matter how I adjust the UCA. Why do these cars have this issue? Obviously it is enough of one that Moog makes an offset bushing to solve it. This a question of curiosity. Is it a design flaw? Is there a way to add a shim to compensate? |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:10 pm ] |
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This is not a flaw, as the stock alignment specs work quite well. The offset bushings are to either solve problems after a big accident (bent frame parts) or add camber/caster as needed. An alignment shop can tell you when they align it what the ranges are with your stock type bushings. You can improve the specs a bit with just the stock bushings if the car hasn't been in a wreck. Lou |
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| Author: | Marc [ Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:37 am ] |
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LASwinger70, Did you get your car aligned OK? I am dealing with the same problem. I changed my 65 Barracuda to the LBP disc brakes several years ago. I ended up with almost 3 degrees of caster in order to get the camber correct. There is nothing wrong with 3 degrees of caster though. I am redoing the front end again because of a bent and broken k-frame. I ordered the problem solver bushings this time and now I am trying to decide how to install them. I can't remember exactly what the problem was. Your post was helpful. I believe the problem is caused by different geometry between the 65 spindle and the 73-76 spindle. I would have to look at them again to refresh my memory as to how they differ, but they are different. |
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| Author: | LASwinger70 [ Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:56 pm ] |
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I actually was lucky. I took the advise from some old timers and they turned me on to a place called Simpson Frame and Alignment on Gower in Hollywood. This is an old school frame and tire alignment specialist, many old cars in the parking lot. He didn't blink at my Swinger. He said that having disassembled the whole suspension and rebuillding it would be virtually impossible for a novice to get it aligned due to the 4 concentric cam bolts our cars use. He wrestled with it and charged me a little extra, but he got my ride height, alignment, etc... perfect. I have a nice little rake to my car now. It drives like a dream. He said i have a few degrees to play with even. Taking it to an old car expert is the only way to go. I had prior tried a discount tire place and they gave me this whole song and dance about how there was no way they could get it 100%, and that I would have to use the special bushings. I decide to call Bull S$%* on them and brought it to Simpson. |
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| Author: | Dennis Weaver [ Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:38 pm ] |
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Quote: I had prior tried a discount tire place and they gave me this whole song and dance about how there was no way they could get it 100%, and that I would have to use the special bushings. I decide to call Bull S$%* on them and brought it to Simpson.
There you have it. That's the pat answer they give when they don't know what the hell they are doing. You lucked up finding a real alignment shop. Those are a rarity anymore. Being in CA helps a great deal.D/W |
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| Author: | Marc [ Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:55 pm ] |
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Good to hear you got it done! It also took me two attempts to get mine aligned after I put the disc brakes on. The second time I found a fellow who knew what he was doing! I don't know if he is still there. I will have to find out soon. |
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