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Author:  Johnny Z [ Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  K&N oil filter
Anybody try one of these yet?From what I have heard these are being used on many forms of race cars,including Nascar.

They have a anti-drainback valve which eliminates dry starts by preventing oil from draining back into crackcase during engine shutdown.

They also have a 1" wrench nut on the top for easy removal and install.

Yes No Maybe?
Author:  Jeb [ Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:50 pm ]
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Most of your other oil fliters (Wix, Fr@m, Pourolator0 have drainback valves on them also they are required on some engines.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:03 pm ]
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All name-brand filters designed for use in applications requiring antidrainback valves, have antidrainback valves.

Race car filtration needs are considerably different from street car filtration needs. "Used on race cars!" is not a reason to use a filter.

Given the amount of lying K&N does to sell their silly air filters, I surely don't trust their oil filters.
Author:  Johnny Z [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:31 am ]
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K&N filters are used world wide.By racers who demand the best quality parts available.

From the Daytona 500 to the Baja 500.

I hardly would call that silly. :?

JZ
Author:  Eric W [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:10 am ]
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Save your money and get either a Napa Gold (made by Wix) or Purolator filter.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:26 pm ]
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K&N filters are used world wide.By racers who demand the best quality parts available.
From the Daytona 500 to the Baja 500.
...and those same racers rebuild their engines every season. "Used on race cars!" does not suggest that any particular part or product is suitable for street use.

And there's a lot more to pro racers' part selection than just what's best for their particular needs. Sponsorship plays an equal or greater role.
Author:  sandy in BC [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:50 pm ]
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Dan: Your passion for/against certain products rivals the hype you claim from the manufacturers. I doubt there is any difference one way or another between any of these filters on a slant. I have never had an oil filter of any kind fail with the exception of a factory Volvo filter over 30 years ago(defective rubber seal ring).

How do you separate hype from fact on the products you sell? Do you independently test them all? Do you just read articles on the internet?

I design, build and test for 5 years everything I sell. I would not venture an opinion on anything I had not tried or tested for 5 years myself. At least Johnny Z was asking questions and researching,,,,try answering with real world experience instead of referring to bombastic websites.

To actually answer Johnnys question: No I havent tried a K&N filter. Yes I find the 1" nut on the end interesting.
Author:  Charrlie_S [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:54 pm ]
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K&N filters are used world wide.By racers who demand the best quality parts available.
From the Daytona 500 to the Baja 500.
...and those same racers rebuild their engines every season. "Used on race cars!" does not suggest that any particular part or product is suitable for street use.

Agreed. Years ago, I knew "stock eliminator racers", who whould run 2 1/2 qts of straight 5 weight oil, to gain a couple more horses. Would you do that on a street car?
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And there's a lot more to pro racers' part selection than just what's best for their particular needs. Sponsorship plays an equal or greater role.
I had some parts on my Stock eliminator car, to collect contingency money. The rules didn't say they parts had to be connected, just had to be on the car. Rules said stock ignition, could upgrade to OEM electronic. MSD required their ign. box, but did not say it had to be wired up and operational. I ran headers, with open exhaust, but Thrush paid, because I had one of their mufflers hanging under the car, even, though there was no pipes connected to it.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:17 pm ]
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Dan: Your passion for/against certain products
That's sweet of you to say, Sandy. I'm a parts geek, guilty as charged. :-D
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rivals the hype you claim from the manufacturers.
Science and fact trump opinion and marketeering in my book...every time. It's one of the main reasons I do not watch television. (Besides, sometimes ya gotta fight fie-yuh, with fie-yuh!)
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I doubt there is any difference one way or another between any of these filters on a slant.
OK, then use whatever filter you feel like using, and be happy. Me, I've never subscribed to the "Aw, it's just a worthless ol' slant-6, so any ol' piece of junk'll work fine" philosophy. I prefer to use quality products and parts, and since advertisers cannot be relied upon to tell the truth, I spend time and effort discovering which products and parts are good, and which aren't.
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How do you separate hype from fact on the products you sell? Do you independently test them all?
As a matter of fact, I do, and I make the raw data available to anyone who wants it, as well as a complete technical library to help them understand it. But this is a thread about oil filters, which I don't sell.
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:24 pm ]
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Save your money and get either a Napa Gold (made by Wix) or Purolator filter.
Those are good suggestions.

More discussion and another good/inexpensive filter option Here.
Author:  Eric W [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  A little off topic.....
I've wondered: Does anybody else run a short filter? I do because I have a short stand pipe that came on the '73 engine in my '72 Satellite (which had a tall pipe which ment running tall filters). I also ran a short filter in my late '70 Fury (with both the original 383 and later the '72 400). Never had a problem, though I do 3K oil changes. Besides less filtering area and a pint less oil, any problems with this?
Author:  Rust collector [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:05 am ]
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I dont think there is any problem with that, but is there any reason you can not use a long filter with the short pipe?
I guess the long filter would keep the bypass closed a bit more, so the filter filters a bit more?
Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A little off topic.....
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I've wondered: Does anybody else run a short filter? I do because I have a short stand pipe that came on the '73 engine in my '72 Satellite (which had a tall pipe which ment running tall filters).
You can use short, tall or REALLY tall filters with the short standpipe.
You can use tall or REALLY tall filters with the tall standpipe.
Author:  Johnny Z [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:55 am ]
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Eric,I think you kind of hit the nail on the head by saying less filter area and a pint less oil. :wink:
Author:  argentina-slantsixer [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A little off topic.....
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I've wondered: Does anybody else run a short filter? I do because I have a short stand pipe that came on the '73 engine in my '72 Satellite (which had a tall pipe which ment running tall filters). I also ran a short filter in my late '70 Fury (with both the original 383 and later the '72 400). Never had a problem, though I do 3K oil changes. Besides less filtering area and a pint less oil, any problems with this?
I use short filters. Never had a problem. I do my oil changes every 3 months no matter how many miles I put on the car. I always use an AF4 Molykote in adition. I use 15w-40 good quality oil. On the last change I decided to try sinthetic 5w-40 oil. I'm happy with it. Oil pressure raises quicker and engine is quieter while warming up. I gotta say that It's kinda noisier when cruisin at hard throttle openings for long periods, but still the lubrication is fine (I get more rocker arm assy flow)
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