I swapped over to a 2bbl Super Six on my son's slant six '74 Dart Sport. The air cleaner is a lot larger than the one for the original 1bbl. Before I start calling all the typical national chain auto parts stores for something that will fit, can some of you give me a recommendation for a good choice of air filter (or maybe what to avoid)?

I know this question will probably open a can of worms...I've read some of the old threads. K&N hype vs. good ol' fashioned OEM stock style filters. Let's just stick with the size, for this discussion.

Thanks,
Jerry

_________________
There's a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing any better.
Stupidity is knowing, yet doing it anyway.

Are you using the stock air cleaner? I found Fram CA160 and Purolator A40004 at www.partsamerica.com. If you change the filters twice a year (like I like to do) either one will work fine. Or you can use the numbers to do some cross reference to a brand you prefer.

Yes, Eric, the air cleaner is stock. Thanks for the numbers. Now, if I could only figure out a way to utilize the cold air intake hose it came with. Doesn't work the same on the Dart.

Jerry

_________________
There's a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing any better.
Stupidity is knowing, yet doing it anyway.

...I insist on Kmart brand air filters!

Here's a suggestion for the cold air hose... Get a gutter-to-drainpipe adapter (rectangular to round) at your local "Home Despot" or hdwe store and fashion a cold air ("ram-air") intake under the radiator support or behind the grille somewhere.....

D/W

_________________

If it ain't broke, fix it!

I take it youre talking about the tinfoil hose that hangs down from the middle of the air intake snorkel?

That is actually a "warm air" preheat hose that draws air from a shroud surrounding the exhaust manifold. I have seen one or two manifolds with this intact. It shrouded the base of the manifold where the header pipe bolts to, and had a round flange that the hose slips onto. You can either look for a manifold that has one of these intact, or you can try fabricating one (no idea how youd pull that off.)

_________________
I've been calling it as i see it for my entire life and that's not about to change. Take it or leave it.

I assumed since he said "cold air" that he was refering to the 3.5" (?) hose that goes to the wheelwell on a Volare/Aspirin or the like. The hot air pipe hooks up just the same, super six or no super six.

D/W

_________________

If it ain't broke, fix it!

Is that the snorkel you used on the ram air conversion?

_________________
I've been calling it as i see it for my entire life and that's not about to change. Take it or leave it.

Si

D/W

_________________

If it ain't broke, fix it!

Dennis, unfortunately, our K-Mart closed last year.

Went looking for an air filter today. Had sense enough to take the air cleaner with me. First, I looked at a Purolator A40004, as suggested by someone. It was too tall and would not allow the lid to close completely (didn't even make contact with the base). Next, I looked at a K&N. It was shorter and almost closed completely, but it's cost was about $40 (WOW!) Finally, I bought a FRAM CA160, and it still lacks just a little bit to completely close. If I remember correctly, when I cleaned it up for painting, the lid had some type of cooked and crusty seal around the inside of the edge, which I dug out and trashed.

I know that all those filters are being sealed off by the lid making contact with their tops, but the slight gap left under the edge of the lid would allow hot underhood air to be drawn in. Not the ideal situation, especially since I am still contemplating how to fabricate a cold air ram intake.

Anyone else notice this and find a particular one that seals properly. I did not have a lot of time to look around, when I settled on the FRAM, but I did compare it to a couple other FRAM filters. I think, with a little more searching, I might find one the right diameter and height.

Dennis is correct about the cold air intake. The Super Six I found came off a '78 Volare. The air cleaner snorkle had a hard molded plastic tube, about 3.5" diameter, running through a hole in the inner fender, about where my Dart's battery tray is, and terminated just behind the left headlight. I salvaged the tube, fender trim, and terminal cap, thinking I might be able to use it somehow. I haven't given up, yet.

Jerry

_________________
There's a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing any better.
Stupidity is knowing, yet doing it anyway.

...Jerry, just replace the lip seal. I'll look, I think this is available somewhere... I have salvaged them from other junk air cleaners before. If nothing else, you could glue a small strip of weatherstrip in there.

D/W

_________________

If it ain't broke, fix it!

Dennis, on Aaron's 1bbl housing, before switching to the 2bbl, we cleaned out the groove around the edge of the lid and filled it with black silicone. Looked good and sealed well. This 2bbl lid doesn't even get close enough to make contact with the rim of the base, much less, compress down for an air-tight fit.

However, with all that said, I may have found a solution. I went back to snoop around the parts shelves today and found a Purolator element with approximately the same inside and outside diameters as the FRAM CA160, but this one is a tad bit shorter and allows the lid to almost close completely. A little sealer in the lid groove, and I think we're in business. Let me know if you come across that info on the sealer you mentioned. Otherwise, I'll be getting another tube of black silicone.

Thanks for the input, I'll post my results, once we get it put together.

Jerry

_________________
There's a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing any better.
Stupidity is knowing, yet doing it anyway.

I need to say K&N air filters, they work very well, only clean them twice a year and good to go!

_________________
Mopar Muscle is well defend by Slant Six!

Valiant Duster 1971

I have the seal that goes in the lip of the super six aircleaner lid. It was leftover from a seal kit I got when I had my head shaved a year an a half ago. E-mail me your address and you can have it.

_________________

Hey! That's a good idea!

D/W

_________________

If it ain't broke, fix it!

The silicone might look and seal good,but wouldn't be the best situation if it started peeling and getting in your carb.I would suggest getting the correct rubber seal.As long as your air-cleaner is sealed on the top and bottom of it your fine.

In my own personal experience I have seen no gains from the cold-air,ram-air experiment.The cool factor is there though.I would say the open element is the best for hp gain.

JZ