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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Mon May 09, 2005 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | driver's side alt assy |
hey, have anyone used this alt setup with power steering? brackets are avalible? |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Tue May 10, 2005 6:26 am ] |
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That is a VERY scarce setup you're asking for. It was used only on 1960 Valiants with power steering. The P/S pump mounts down on the driver's side of the block (where the alternator is mounted on non-P/S cars) and the alternator is mounted to a special variant of the water neck/thermostat housing. The toughest piece to find is the special water neck, P/N 2121908. |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Tue May 10, 2005 11:16 pm ] |
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can I get some pics/diagrams of that? |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 11, 2005 7:18 am ] |
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Ummmmmmm...h'm. My '60 Valiant service and parts manuals are in storage in Denver (about 2400 km and an international border from here...) There's a decent illustration in the '60 Valiant new-car brochure, but I think all my copies of that are also in Denver... |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Wed May 11, 2005 3:59 pm ] |
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well I'll wait then
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| Author: | VDART [ Wed May 11, 2005 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | pics--of the non -existent part |
Try thesehttp://members.cox.net/sweeterbeater/DCP_0002.JPGhttp://members.cox.net/sweeterbeater/DCP_0003.JPG This came from an on-line experience in the past-(2003) the guy had this left in his 61 lancer. I will have to ponder his name if you are intereted in the parts. Anyhow the 60 valiant service manual had 0 pics of the desired set-up, the pic they have on a car is of the pressure test it's on a v-8 car(go figure). I've had 2- 60 valiants with the left side mounted alternator bracket, both 170 cars neither had the head drilled/tapped for the later style alternator bracket. Hopefully these pics help. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 11, 2005 7:55 pm ] |
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VDart, that's the non-A/C '60-'66 slant-6 power steering bracket and pump (w/Thompson roller type pump). Those parts are a lot more common than the pieces necessary to mount the alternator above 'em! |
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| Author: | Eric W [ Wed May 11, 2005 8:09 pm ] |
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Some food for thought. I was at the wrecking yard today and saw an '86 van with a slant. It had an air pump mounted above the power steering pump. Got me thinking about this post, like maybe this bracket could somehow be used or modified to accept an alternator, either one of the square back style or a newer Nippondenso unit. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed May 11, 2005 8:13 pm ] |
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Eric's idea is worth pursuing. If I were to try it, I'd definitely go with the smaller, lighter, easier-to-mount Nippondenso unit. |
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| Author: | VDART [ Wed May 11, 2005 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | p/s |
Sorry Dan, that's all I had for early style A body p/s, actually never seen one with p/s except for that picture. By the way do those early style motor mounts ever wear out? I didn't measure, but it looks very possible to use them in place of the biscuit style 62-66 with very minor mods!! Also the diameter of the steering shaft on the 60-61 cars is smaller than the 62-66 style - do not know about the p/s set-up diameter. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu May 12, 2005 8:24 am ] |
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The steering boxes don't interchange between '60-'61 and '62-up cars (different mounting). The '60-'61 vertical-shear engine mounts do seem to hold up very well over the years. They are difficult to find! I've thought about swapping these into my '62, and I have a set of them. It looks like the RH mount might be a direct swap, but the LH mount's "foot" bolt hole (to the K-frame) hits air, so a tab would have to be welded onto the K-frame, as it seems to me. If you figure out another way to do it, let us know! |
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| Author: | relic-lover [ Thu May 12, 2005 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | sales brochure pics |
I did not find any pictures in the FSM for 60 of the driver side alternator set up. I did find the artists version from a sales brochure. 1960 motor with drivers side alternator http://members.cox.net/relic-lover/motor60.JPG 1960 drivers side alternator closeup http://members.cox.net/relic-lover/lh_alt60.JPG Does that mean flex hose was used on production 60 Valiants for the upper hose? |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu May 12, 2005 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sales brochure pics |
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1960 drivers side alternator closeup
Yep, that's the pic I was thinking of in the brochure. Don't think the flex hose was factory—the alternator also isn't quite right in detail, the manifold's a little off, etc. This is an artist's conception of the engine as installed in ????.
http://members.cox.net/relic-lover/lh_alt60.JPG Does that mean flex hose was used on production 60 Valiants for the upper hose? |
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| Author: | argentina-slantsixer [ Thu May 12, 2005 9:04 pm ] |
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thanks relic lover. that's what I was asking for. I think I'm gonna tig a chopped RH bracket (the one that bolts to the head) to a waterneck and see what happens. Keep you guys posted. By the way, funny coil placing, huh? |
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| Author: | relic-lover [ Fri May 13, 2005 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | from 1960 Valiant |
The pics are from the Story of Valiant brochure. All the pics are 1960 Valiants. |
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