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 Post subject: creaking and groaning
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:42 pm 
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so my dart has started creaking and groaning as she moves. you can only hear it when im at parking lot speed but man, she sounds like an old boat. any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:29 pm 
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Turn the radio up...........

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When were the polyurethane bushings installed? :twisted: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:20 am 
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When were the polyurethane bushings installed?
Same time as the Fram filter and MSD ignition ;-)

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Same time as the Fram filter and MSD ignition ;-)

-DS (...and the can of TransX)
Well, at least it's not leaking trans fluid anymore! :roll: :lol:

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...this transmission will self-destruct in six seconds! :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:41 pm 
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what polyurethane bushings? i replaced the shocks and leaf springs 4000 miles ago but this thing all of a sudden just creaks every where.

and the radio doesn't work either.

i took it to ntb to lubricate the chasis but that made no difference. and considering they have balanced my tires 3 times and the thing still shakes like a shiatsu massage chair at 65 i have little faith in them.

seriously, is there anything i can do?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:36 am 
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Have you had the front end looked at? Probably time for a rebuild. Mine creaked and groaned, too, before I overhauled everything up front.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:56 am 
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Same story on my '64. Creaks, groans, pops and clunks (and not just from my knees and back), especially noticeable at low speed. Lube jobs are to prevent squeaks at those points with zerk fittings - not repair problems there or elsewhere. HD rubber bushings and new balljointsfixed mine right up.
BTW, I agree with your signature - The guys at work frequently ask me, "When are you going to get some paint on that thing?". Never mind the disk brake upgrade and suspension rebuild, electronic ignition, home-made air cleaner, upgraded charging system, etc. I tell them two things: "When I'm driving, I don't see much of the paint." and "It has paint - several different shades of white and primer!" Sort of an apaloosa effect, to my eye.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:27 am 
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Sounds like you have a funky wear pattern on a tire(s) or an out of balance or worn out of round brake drum. If you have funky tire wear, it's probably time for ball joints; look for scalloping on the inside or outside edges of the front tires. Also, jack each tire up and spin it slowly, looking at the tread 'face on' near the pavement as you rotate them... a lot of times you can identify a tire with a bulge or a "hop" or just the aforementioned funky wear.

The "polyurethane" comment is sort of a running joke and "pot stirrer" here. There is a lot of hype regarding going to cheesy polyurethane bushings for the front ends of Mopars - I strongly recommend that they be avoided like the plague for technical reasons that I've spelled out many times in the past. ...others will say they know better and poly is just fantastic, the best thing since sliced bread, so you are advised.

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P. S. - You may actually find that hard polyurethane bushings work well for the rear suspension which is a whole different animal.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:11 am 
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i am actually about to put polyurethane bushings on my shackles of my leaf springs because the guys that remanned them for me decided to give me some rubber that wanted to deteriorate like the us's foreign relations with middle eastern countries.

seriously, on the creaking and groaning, i just had new tires put on the front, new ball joints, new upper control arm bushings and a balance and alignment. what gives?

will anything bad happen if i cover every flex point with WD40?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:20 am 
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i am actually about to put polyurethane bushings on my shackles of my leaf springs because the guys that remanned them for me decided to give me some rubber that wanted to deteriorate like the us's foreign relations with middle eastern countries.

seriously, on the creaking and groaning, i just had new tires put on the front, new ball joints, new upper control arm bushings and a balance and alignment. what gives?

will anything bad happen if i cover every flex point with WD40?
Nope... I recommend it. Some might say that the WD will speed up the deterioration of the bushings, but you'd have to keep it saturated daily for years for it to make any real difference. Spraying it on your ball joints would be a waste of time, however. Before you do anything, make sure your upper control arm bushing bolts are tight. The metal sleeve should not move in the car body. If you didn't have the lower control arm bushings replaced, chances are there's your problem. That's usually the first or second thing to go on a mopar front end, right along with the strut rod bushings.

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