That would probably work, but I think most forklifts have a bit undersized carbs?
Should work anyway...
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| Author: | Valianator [ Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Anybody ever run a slant on LPG? |
Not that I'm gonna run out and try it tomorrow or anything, but the LPG-slant idea creeps into my head every time I have to get into the engine compartment of the fork truck at work (friggin' starter this time. @#%*!) The mixer looks like it'd bolt right on to a 1bbl /6 manifold. With all the industrial slants out there powering things like aircraft tugs and such, I figure it's probably already been done. Anybody here ever see an LPG slant? Or have any info on how to set up an LPG system? |
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| Author: | NewLancerMan [ Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:23 pm ] |
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I have no personal experience with it, but an australian-based email list I'm on has many guys that have converted to LPG in their early Valiants. I'm sure there is info on it: http://www.1962valiants.com/ |
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| Author: | benevolance [ Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:17 pm ] |
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Propane used to be such a great option...Mostly because it was so damned cheap! It has gotten more expensive..And the price of it has risen more than diesel or gasoline. Still cheaper to run. Expect a drop in horsepower and fuel mileage slightly The thing I always wondered about was if there was a way to rig up a propane slant with a turbo...to offset the loss in power and mileage...And run a cheaper cleaner fuel? -Peter |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:00 pm ] |
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Quote: Expect a drop in horsepower and fuel mileage slightly
Expect a significant drop in horsepower and fuel mileage. Also expect to lose most of your trunk space.
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:34 am ] |
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Quote: The thing I always wondered about was if there was a way to rig up a propane slant with a turbo...to offset the loss in power and mileage...And run a cheaper cleaner fuel? -Peter |
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| Author: | FrankRaso [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:56 am ] |
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LPG systems are typically installed in fleet applications where the cost per mile is a major consideration in the operation of the vehicle. Fuel economy is lower with LPG simply because LPG contains less energy per gallon than gasoline. Power drops off somewhat because propane is usually metered into the engine as a gas which displaces air. Gasoline, in comparison, is metered into the engine as a liquid mist which displaces a negligible amount of air. Unless you remove the gas tank and mount the propane tank in its place, you will lose trunk space. I wouldn't say that you will lose most of your trunk space but you will certainly lose all of the space under the parcel shelf and then some. Propane prices vary from location to location. Places with a large amount of fleet traffic will usually have the best propane prices. In the USA, I have heard that Flying J has competitive prices ($1.49/gallon in Utah last month). I have been trying to find some photos of slant six propane converions but have not had luck yet. However, Tom Jennings' Rambler conversion would be almost identical to a slant six conversion: http://www.wps.com/LPG/index.html Frank http://cars.rasoenterprises.com/ http://fuelsforum.rasoenterprises.com/ |
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| Author: | Reed [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:52 am ] |
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I would think that the setup from a slant powered forklift would just bolt right on to a slant six in a car or truck. I used to drive slant powered forklifts and the intake manifold looked identical to a stock one barrel. I think all you would need would be the carburetor, all the plumbing, and the tank for your trunk. |
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| Author: | Reed [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:52 am ] |
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sorry. Double post. Ignore this one. |
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| Author: | Rust collector [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:57 am ] |
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That would probably work, but I think most forklifts have a bit undersized carbs? Should work anyway... |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:51 am ] |
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Seems to me I've read something about direct propane injection systems; i.e., propane injected as a liquid. I haven't read up on it yet; I imagine there are some fairly radical modifications to be made, but probably some fairly radical gains to be had, too. As far as how much trunk space you lose to the tank, that kinda depends on whether we're starting with a '62 Valiant or a '69 Dart! |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:09 pm ] |
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Quote: Seems to me I've read something about direct propane injection systems; i.e., propane injected as a liquid. I haven't read up on it yet; I imagine there are some fairly radical modifications to be made, but probably some fairly radical gains to be had, too.
I think there is a place in Minnesota that specializes in liquid LP injection as EFI. I know Hyster is experimenting with it too.
As far as how much trunk space you lose to the tank, that kinda depends on whether we're starting with a '62 Valiant or a '69 Dart! |
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| Author: | Valianator [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:18 pm ] |
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Thanks for all the info! Gotta read up at some of those links..... |
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| Author: | benevolance [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:37 am ] |
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Charlie S you said and I quote: "If I live long enough, I'm going to try it. I have just about everything I need, except for time. Have the turbo, propane system, adapters for the turbo to propane mixer, etc. Need new hose for the propane, and brackets for the tank. Have to fab the turbo pipeing." Man send me a PM...I am in a bit over my head on some of those technical terms...As far as access to propane automobiles I have access to several so I can scavenge lots of parts...My family owns 50 acres of a junk yard...So the turbo and propane parts are not a huge problem..I just need to understand what I am doing Any help with that you can provide...Is appreciated. I bought a mint slant 6 shortwheel base 82 pickup....60,000 actual on it here in South Carolina...I want to take it back to Canada (where I am from) and install the turbo and switch it to propane) I saved a couple of complete propane set ups...One was in a 85 Aries K car wagon....Propane vehicles were popular in Canada....the other propane system I have came out of a 1 ton chevy cube van.... I have muddled through and have a basic understanding of setting up a turbo on a slant.... So I am half way there to understanding it. -Peter |
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| Author: | FrankRaso [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | LPG Injection |
In case anyone is interested in reading about LPG injection, I have two links: Liquid Injection: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=129931 Gaeous Injection: http://fuelsforum.rasoenterprises.com/v ... .php?t=162 |
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