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| Author: | dusty7t4 [ Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | higher compression, which octane? |
for my own knowledge, for those of you with higher compression, what octane do you run? (yes, I know other variables are important, you can list your timing too) -dave |
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| Author: | dusty7t4 [ Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:03 pm ] |
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anybody? it can't be that closely guarded of a secret -dave |
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| Author: | DusterIdiot [ Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What do you mean? |
Variables make the question so broadband that it's almost ridiculous... Some guy might be running a tight cam and performance timing with 'mild compression' and have to run only super...but he might be able to run it with less timing and get less power and mileage and run regular.... Others might run a long-rod and be able to run on pump regular due to detonation resistance, and run super when they make 'drag runs' to get all the mech timing it can take... For the most part, if you go to 9:1 compression with a mild cam you will be able to run on regular if you fine tune the timing and carb, but your power might 'suffer' a bit depending on lots of 'variables'....you could get your power back and keep or lose some mileage running more octane (plus or super...)... Where are you getting at with the question anyway (do you have a build in mind, are you wanting to 'bump' your compression for a bit more power) ??? -D.Idiot |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:43 pm ] |
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You are asking a VERY vague question here as camshaft, ignition timing, carbs - all influence octane needed. Also, this information exists many times over on this site if you search. In a nutshell, I consider pump premium to be fine for up to about 10.5:1 comp, low octane good to about 9.5:1. This assumed timing curve and camshaft are matched properly to your comp ratio. Lou |
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| Author: | NewLancerMan [ Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:19 pm ] |
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I run about 9.2:1 with a compcams 252 and 2x1bbl carbs and run 87 octane no problem |
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| Author: | sandy in BC [ Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:23 pm ] |
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9.25 CR, Comp 264, Highway driving only , 5 speed , 3000lbs, 3.23 gears, 24" tires, Super6 BBD, 87 octane.....shift down outta ping! |
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| Author: | dusty7t4 [ Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:38 am ] |
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My compression is going to be close to 11 to 1 (not finalized yet, depends on what the block gets decked). holley 390, clifford manifold and headers. cam is a .5 lift clifford, 280/290 duration with over sized valves in the head, full port and polish ignition hasn't been decided on yet. I have read most of the threads on here and am decideing between the msd 6 or the GM hei conversion. what timing do you suggest for this set up? weekend "fun" car useage, not a daily driver looks like lou may have answered it for me, since around here premium is considered to be 92/93 octane, soo it looks like I will need a bit better than that. I have also read on this site that nobody seems to like the octane boosters either. maybe I'll aim a bit lower so I can still use the 92 any comments on any of this? -dave |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:39 am ] |
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If you really are going to have 11:1, then get a bigger cam and you can run pump premium. Shoot for 245-260 @0.05" duration. Initial timing 15 deg, total mechanical advance 28 deg. Lou |
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| Author: | dusty7t4 [ Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:04 pm ] |
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Thank you very much lou- a bigger cam than 280/290 duration and .5 lift though? It has a duration of 246 in./256 ex. at .050 right now.....I think this is close what you reccomended unless I am misreading you thanks again to everybody -dave |
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| Author: | Dart270 [ Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:26 pm ] |
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OK, that is probably enough duration. Give 'er a go. Lou |
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