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Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  New To Working On Old Cars? Get These Three Books!

• Petersen's Automotive Troubleshooting & Repair Manual, 1975 (or thereabouts; there were a few print runs of this book. 1974, 1975, 1977 at least.) See Here.

• Stockel and Stockel, "Auto Mechanics Fundamentals". These are always plentiful and cheap, since they were the standard textbook for just about every auto shop class ever taught in North America. Numerous printings; most any will do, but it's best to find one printed a couple years after your car was built. See Here.

• A Factory Service Manual for your year and model. You can get it on eBay or from any of many automotive literature vendors, on paper or electronically. Many of them are available for free download as PDFs here

It makes little difference whether you get the Dodge or Plymouth version. That is, if you're working on a '75 Dart, the 1975 Plymouth and Valiant manual will serve you just as well as the 1975 Dodge and Dart manual, for instance. What matters is that you get the genuine factory book—sometimes a 2-book set—rather than an aftermarket book (Chilton, Haynes, etc.). The aftermarket books contain a great deal of incorrect information, and leave out important info and steps. That's how they cram ten years and five models into a book 1" thick, while the factory books cover only a few models and are several inches thick. See Here for instructions on how to make the most effective use of an aftermarket service manual.

These three books are very, very highly recommended for anyone just starting out working on an old car. The Stockel book explains how everything works. The Petersen book has lots of pictures and explains how to fix everything, how to choose and use tools, etc. The factory service manual contains all the data, settings, specifications, and techniques applicable to your particular car. Read 'em cover-to-cover, especially the Petersen and Stockel books.

Buy. Read. Assimilate!

Author:  DusterIdiot [ Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Some factory manuals = $$$

Just as an FYI, since the muscle craze has hit badly in most areas those guys who have the mis fortune to have a 1968-1974 car may not like the price of their books...

I tryed to get a set of 1974 books (all three Service, Electrical, and the Parts Book) and had to pass because it included all the specs for the challenger and Barracuda E-body...that jacked the price through the roof to $150 for all 3...($45 for the service manual, $35 for the electrical manual...)... conversely a full set of 1976 manuals ran a whole wopping $50...off of e-bag...


The 1975 manual is one 'style' it's Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler (thanks to the bean counters...)....


Keep an eye out at your local used book store they pop up from time to time too (I have the 1978 service set from Powell's books for a whole $15 service and elec...)

FYI-

-D.Idiot

Author:  james longhurst [ Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:26 pm ]
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:roll:

Author:  SwingLo73 [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:28 am ]
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I'm bringing this topic back up because I just got two of the three books. The factory manual for my 73 turns out to be the hardest to find.

I got the Petersen manual for less than $2 off ebay.

The Stockel book was barely $5.

They are !immensely! useful books. A ton of information, and the language is definately geared toward the guy wrenching at home. I'm a beginner and these books are great! The Petersen manual even had guidelines for a startup tool kit which is helpful because I don't have a million dollars to spend on every little tool a mechanic might have.

Thanks Dan.

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:26 am ]
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Worth their weight in gold, fer sher.

I've modified the top post in this thread to provide a better source for factory info. Rattle Paul Politis' cage and see if he can't supply your '73 books.

Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Great Books!

I just got the Stockel book " Auto Mechanics Fundamentals" also. Wow! What a great book. I've already learned, that I need to Learn some more about ,what I haven't learned. Know what I mean? Thanks for the recommendation Dan, It really is a treasure chest full of information.

Rick

PS. Are the newer editions of equal value with regards to more modern cars?
Thanks

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:32 pm ]
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Hi, Rick. As far as I know, the newer versions are equally thorough regarding engine management principles and other "new car" stuff, but there may be other Stockel books (besides Auto Mechanics Fundamentals) that go into depth on those topics. I know there was a companion volume to Auto Mechanics Fundamentals called Auto Service Fundamentals, that dealt with service practices and procedures. You may want to try an amazon.com search on stockel.

Author:  GunPilot [ Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:31 pm ]
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Quote:
You may want to try an amazon.com search on stockel.
Did that, and got a 1974 book in good condition for $2.19.

Author:  Guest [ Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:40 am ]
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I paid $65 for the "Faxon" Factory Service Manual (FSM) for my '63 Valiant. Worth every penny. With the FSM and this /6 forum you can do about anything with these cars.

Author:  khughesprime [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:44 am ]
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Are the 74 and 77 versions similar to the 75 Petersen's? Can't seem to find a 75 edition.

Author:  SlantSixDan [ Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:13 am ]
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Either should be just fine. Go for the '77.

Author:  kmccabe56 [ Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:10 am ]
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One more book Dan should have recommended is the factory PARTS catalog.

Not just because it's full of numbers if/when you're dealing with all of the people who sell NOS (New Old Stock) parts but also for all of the exploded diagrams of the various subassemblies.

The Factory Service Manual assumes you have a basic mechanical knowledge of a car. Whether you do or not, in many cases, the parts catalog will show you how something is assembled. So when you're fishing around inside a door trying to connect a link or clip, it's nice to know what that jagged piece was that just ripped your hand open.

Author:  Family Scamp [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:08 am ]
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Thanks for your help Dan. I did check with the manufacturer again and this is the only heat riser they have. I've checked elsewhere but keep coming back to the same company (ATP). I wonder if I can just replace the thermo-spring since the original is broken. Thoughts?

Also I'll get a factory service manual. Thanks again.

Bruce

Author:  slantedview [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:57 am ]
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Lots of good information in these books. I've been playing with cars longer than most of you have been breathing. The knowledge in these books would have saved a lot of skin and cussing fits. I really think this thread should be a sticky.

Author:  Rug_Trucker [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:27 am ]
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On Moparts.com "Mr.X" may have FSM's on CD. Might want to check with him.

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