If your pipe bender is good you will be able to get the pipes to dump in front of the wheels, just like a T/A or AAR. The Series 40's are pretty compact IIRC.
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| Author: | 73PlymouthDuster [ Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Slant Six with Side Exhausts? |
I'm trying to build a wild Slant Six cruise car. This is more of a "show than go" car.... I was wondering if it's possible of adding side exhausts to my '73 Duster that mimick a Challenger T/A or 'AAR Cuda.... I've always loved the Viper side exhausts despite their heat issues, too. My single stock exhaust manifold is cracked so I need to replace it. I was thinking of going with Dutra Duals. Do you think there is enough space to route the exhaust out below the doors (in front of the rear axle) like an 'AAR Cuda? I was planning to use Flowmaster mufflers -- since the Slant should sound mean. I've been very impressed with Super 40s because they produce a sweet idle yet quiet down at speeds about 50 (no droning). Is this possible? |
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| Author: | dart64rg [ Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:50 am ] |
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The mufflers for an AAR have both the inlet and the outlet on the same end of the muffler. If you use that type of muffler and pipe that turns around to exit out hte side it should work. Not sure if the AAR reproduction mufflers are sized to fit in an A-body though. |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:29 pm ] |
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If your pipe bender is good you will be able to get the pipes to dump in front of the wheels, just like a T/A or AAR. The Series 40's are pretty compact IIRC.
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| Author: | 73PlymouthDuster [ Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:03 pm ] |
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[quote="slantzilla"]If your pipe bender is good you will be able to get the pipes to dump in front of the wheels, just like a T/A or AAR. The Series 40's are pretty compact IIRC. [/quote]Yeah, I was thinking of going with 40s.... The only thing I'm worried about is ground clearance. If I mount the mufflers in the stock location, they should be fine, the mufflers need same sided in/out -- and I might be able to route the pipe curling out like the AAR. I've got a stock suspension and I measured 8 inches of ground clearance. However, I am a bit worried about speed bumps, etc.... Does anyone know the ground clearance on 'AARs or T/As.... I heard they had a funky modified suspension to clear the mufflers (like extreme camber if I remember). |
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| Author: | vynn3 [ Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:35 am ] |
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A piece of advice? Go here: http://www.accurateltd.com/ Scroll down to the picture of the reproduction AAR / T/A mufflers and exhaust. You have to assemble it in your head, but it shows how it's designed. Trying to duplicate it with a completely different muffler design would be... difficult. If you really want side exhaust but don't want the expense and trouble of modifying the E-body exhaust, just throw a pair or glasspacks towards the front of the exhaust system and have the muffler guy route the pipes to the side. I had a '74 Dart Sport with this exhaust (installed by the previous owner). I got sick of it and put in a proper exhaust soon after. VM |
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| Author: | Charrlie_S [ Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:27 am ] |
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Quote: If you really want side exhaust but don't want the expense and trouble of modifying the E-body exhaust, just throw a pair or glasspacks towards the front of the exhaust system and have the muffler guy route the pipes to the side. I had a '74 Dart Sport with this exhaust (installed by the previous owner). I got sick of it and put in a proper exhaust soon after. VM |
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| Author: | vynn3 [ Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:06 am ] |
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Quote: Boy, I don't reccommed that. I have headers and dual glasspacks, with both exhaust pipes exiting just before the driver side rear wheel. It is horrifically LOUD. I needed to use the glasspacks for space reasons (both mufflers side by side). I can live with it, because it is mainly a race car/cruise in car. Even if you could live with it, I don't think the cops would.
I don't recommend it either (thus the reason I ripped the exhaust system out shortly after buying the car and installed a full-length system with mufflers), but if he wants Flowmaster 40's and side-exhaust, he obviously wants it VERY loud. I'm just trying to propose a way to accomplish his goals. Flow 40s or glasspacks — I don't see much difference in volume or sound quality, and I'd never even consider either one. But then I'm old.VM |
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| Author: | 73PlymouthDuster [ Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I like it loud -- but street legal.... |
I don't mind a loud exhaust -- I like them loud.... I just don't want tickets from my local authority figures  Is the sound street legal or race muffler territory?Do Glasspacks make a Slant sound ricey? I want something that sounds like a Domestic..... Deep idle.... Has anyone tried Flowmaster Super 40s? They are usually quiet and mellow, especially on the highway -- very little droning. I'm probably going to get 'AAR megaphone reproduction tips to make it look full-fledged Mopar.... When you had side exhausts, what size pipes and tips did you use? 2 inch? Did you ever scratch them up on speed bumps? etc? What about really long glasspacks -- like a Dynomax Thrush glasspack? Most glasspacks are 12 inches long, but the dynomax ones are twice as long.... They've got "2 stages" -- I don't really understand the terminology, but they say that "these glasspacks mufflers give you maximum flow without annoying the sound police." Do you think they'd make the side exhausts fairly practical? I just want a "Gee Wiz," that Slant Six is really cool response at Cruise Night! Between a HyperPak and 'Cuda Side Exhausts -- I figured it would turn some heads. |
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| Author: | vynn3 [ Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:44 am ] |
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My "side pipe" car, a '74 "Starsky & Hutch" Dart Sport (red with the big white "swoosh" just like S&H's Torino), didn't have tips, just bare pipes. As I didn't have the exhaust installed, I've no idea what dia. It also had big & little slotted wheels, in true 70's style, with 195-75s on the front and giant (?) tires on the back with a pair of air shocks jacking up the rear, so no, there was no problem with bottoming them on anything. Funny thing is, I just bought it 'cause it had a factory sunroof. It was a 318 car, BTW. For more advice you probably don't want to hear, I kinda get the idea what your going for, but I think you'll be disappointed. Even with the loudest and/or best tuned exhaust, slants just don't sound like V-8's at anything above idle. Personally, I think they sound cool and unique, especially at highway speeds, but I like to be different. If your local cruises are anything like the ones I've been to, most of the V-8 boys will be laughing at your slant's exhaust note, as opposed to respecting you for being different. I've found most car guys to be very narrow minded about other people's cars, even a few slanters. And if you truly want to impress "the masses", just go mainstream and buy a flashy car that most people like, like a Camaro, Mustang, or Civic. VM |
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| Author: | 73PlymouthDuster [ Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:57 am ] |
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[quote="vynn3"] If your local cruises are anything like the ones I've been to, most of the V-8 boys will be laughing at your slant's exhaust note, as opposed to respecting you for being different. I've found most car guys to be very narrow minded about [i]other[/i] people's cars, even a few slanters. And if you truly want to impress "the masses", just go mainstream and buy a flashy car that most people like, like a Camaro, Mustang, or Civic. VM[/quote] Well, it just depends on the crowd really. The slant six seems to get huge respect with older car guys... When I cruise at Old Town here in Central Florida -- most of the people there really like the distinctive six that I have (well, above the age of 35, anyways). The Baby Boomers really respond more to Detroit Iron more than most. With a killer exhaust, I figured it would at least educate the younger set (I am a Gen X member myself). My best friend has the same problem with his 2004 Pontiac GTO, too. Most of the kids ignore it and drool over the beat-up civic parked next to it. Then he destroys that same Civic at the track by a full 3 seconds in the quarter. (His stock GTO is anything but mainstream, but it runs 13.5s with only a K&N filter and a tuned ECU). So I don't feel so bad -- his $33,000 car doesn't really impress the younger set any more than my $1,000 Duster. |
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| Author: | mopardemon71 [ Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:18 am ] |
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Hey everyone I just put pipes on my 74 a-body ,single pipe, and I used a magna-flow super turbo it fit great but the mounting is in the stock location so thats a tight bend to get it around. The muffler I used sounds great  but at 70mph I need to crack the window but around town it is theee coolest sound. One of the best things is the engine is stock and evryone at my shop likes it alot.
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| Author: | mopardemon71 [ Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:28 am ] |
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I guess I sould explain the exhaust to. THe frist 3-3.5 feet is 2 1/4" then the rest is 2 1/2" and it still pulls good and I'm getting better gas mileage too. If you go with the turbo muff"s get a offset inlet and and offset outlet and that will tone down the exhaust note. |
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| Author: | 73PlymouthDuster [ Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:03 pm ] |
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[quote="mopardemon71"]I guess I sould explain the exhaust to. THe frist 3-3.5 feet is 2 1/4" then the rest is 2 1/2" and it still pulls good and I'm getting better gas mileage too. If you go with the turbo muff"s get a offset inlet and and offset outlet and that will tone down the exhaust note.[/quote] So do you a muffler with 2.25 in and 2.5 out -- or do you have a 2.25 to 2.5 down pipe? |
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