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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:43 am 
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to remove play in the steering box which way do you turn the allen bolt on top of a power steering box?

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:24 pm 
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In (CW) to reduce backlash. Go a very little at a time, test drive. You want to adjust until you just feel it bind at the tight spot (steering wheel straight ahead), then back off a hair till it just goes away. It's imporatant that your steering wheel is centered first if it's not already. To do that, toe one wheel in and the other wheel out the same exact amount using the tie rods until the steering wheel is exactly centered going straight down the road.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:00 pm 
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Thanks DW.
I got it snugged up pretty good now. They would not align it until I adjusted the steering box.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:17 pm 
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Thanks DW.
I got it snugged up pretty good now. They would not align it until I adjusted the steering box.
Good luck with the alignment. Finding a real (qualified, knowledgeable, careful and precise) alignment shop is like finding a needle in a haystack. That's why I gave up and started doing my own long ago.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:27 am 
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This is a new Dodge-Jeep dealership thet is part of a company that has been around since 1929. The alignment guy I used to go to (same company but in the GMC truck garage where I worked all through high school) retired last year. He was the one that looked at the upper control arm and asked what old MOPAR I was working on.
I'll post this evening how it feels when I get it back.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:40 am 
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Yeah, Iheard that all the time while I was an alignment guy (18 yrs worth) about good alignment guys being hard to find. Even from parts counter guys who got asked where to go for alignments.
if the place that I had worked had treated their employees better I'd probably not switched over to doing industrial maintenance. Im friends with a local H.S. career center auto shop teacher who lets me come in and do whatever I need done at the school, a couple weeks ago I did struts and inner tie rods on another friend's Caravan, I took it over there and used the school's rack to align it when I was done, he assigned 4 students to watch/listen/help. Its a shame because I could tell that only 1 of those 4 was there to actually learn something, the others wandered off.
Teach wants me to come in next fall as he does the unit on suspension to work with them. It felt good though getting back in there under the rack! 8) :)
(even my son thinks I oughtta put an alignment rack in my new garage) :roll: :idea: I do kinda miss it, especially the older cars. Where I worked the other guys hid in the john when an older car or about any truck came in. That was OK, because I would rather do them all day than 1 wrong wheel drive newer car!


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:54 am 
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(even my son thinks I oughtta put an alignment rack in my new garage) :roll: :idea:
Who needs a rack? :P :lol:

D/W <------- I don't need no stinkin' rack!

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:56 am 
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This is a new Dodge-Jeep dealership thet is part of a company that has been around since 1929. The alignment guy I used to go to (same company but in the GMC truck garage where I worked all through high school) retired last year. He was the one that looked at the upper control arm and asked what old MOPAR I was working on.
I'll post this evening how it feels when I get it back.
Question: If they can identify a Mopar upper control arm by smell, how come they couldn't adjust your steering box for you? :?: :? Oh, wait, that guy retired, I see. Dealer don't mean squat, sometimes they hire the most bumbling of idiots. The only advantage with a dealer is with a new(er) car, you can complain to the manufacturer.

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Where I worked the other guys hid in the john when an older car or about any truck came in. That was OK, because I would rather do them all day than 1 wrong wheel drive newer car!
At the place I used to go to for alignments, I had to call ahead to see if this one mechanic was in. This guy drives a '72 Roadrunner and can look at the UCA cam bolts and the torsion bars without freaking out. Now he quit that place (he was the only good worker there) and is working at a VW dealership. So, from now on it looks like I'll be taking my cars to the VW dealership for alignments.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:13 am 
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They got it all aligned for me but I have got the steering box way too tight. I have to loosen it up some more tonight. I was really surprised when I got the bill. The sign says $69.99 for an alignment, they deducted $14 since it wasn't a 4 wheel alignment. So it was was only $59!! they even gave me a free carwash coupon.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:31 am 
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They got it all aligned for me but I have got the steering box way too tight. I have to loosen it up some more tonight. I was really surprised when I got the bill. The sign says $69.99 for an alignment, they deducted $14 since it wasn't a 4 wheel alignment. So it was was only $59!! they even gave me a free carwash coupon.

Wouldn't that be $55???????

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:39 pm 
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$69.95+$3.36(sales tax)=$73.31-$6.99-$6.99=$59.33
I got ripped good for having 2 tires taken off of my steel wheels another pair removed from my aluminm wheels and discarded then the tires from the steel wheels mounted on the aluminum wheels, balanced, and new valve stems all totaled $56!

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